Well, lets see: Benelux , Germany (with 90% CATV analogue penetration) an= d Scandinavia: 50%. And, of course, in those countries they are going dow= n the portable/mobile route. and France and Italy are both largely terres= trial markets (65%+ penetration..) Kind Regards, DN -------------Forwarded Message----------------- From: INTERNET:opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, INTERNET:opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: , INTERNET:opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx = Date: 16/03/105 15:45 PM RE: [opendtv] Re: 5th generation Test = WOW, the UK is Europe... "There has not been the development of a vibrant terrestrial sector as th= ere has been in Europe, Asia and South America." I can list many markets across Europe where the terrestrial sector has mo= re or less died, starting in the 70's. donald ----- Original Message ----- = From: "dmenolan" <dmenolan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "Open DTV list" <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 3:09 PM Subject: [opendtv] Re: 5th generation Test Tom, Because in the US a dependency culture has existed on 'must-carry' and DB= =3D S; witness the DirecTV MPEG4 local HDTV broadcasts. There has not been th= =3D e development of a vibrant terrestrial sector as there has been in Europe= =3D , Asia and South America. = = ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at Fr= eeLists.org = - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word un= subscribe in the subject line. ----------------------- Internet Header -------------------------------- Sender: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Received: from turing.freelists.org (freelists-180.iquest.net [206.53.239= .180]) by liaag2ab.mx.compuserve.com (8.12.11/8.12.7/SUN-2.18) with ESMTP id j2= GFj81j000685 for <dmenolan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:45:08 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP = id 4EFBE8709D; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:45:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28539-02; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:45:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP = id BF81586C95; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:45:07 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list opendtv); Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:44:40 = -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Delivered-To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP = id A00B28686D for <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:44:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28403-08 for <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:44:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from post-23.mail.nl.demon.net (post-23.mail.nl.demon.net [194.= 159.73.193]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP = id 6CA1B867D0 for <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:44:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from donaldkoeleman.demon.nl ([212.238.218.101]:1229 helo=3Droc= klake) by post-23.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DBahL-000KXm-GB for opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:44:39 +0000 Message-ID: <001201c52a3f$11d11af0$0202a8c0@rocklake> From: "Donald Koeleman" <donald.koeleman@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> References: <200503160909_MC3-1-9889-711@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [opendtv] Re: 5th generation Test Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:44:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=3Diso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version 0.75.1, clamav-milter version 0.7= 5c on liaag2ab.mx.compuserve.com X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p9 (Debian) at avenirtech.net X-archive-position: 6856 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Errors-To: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx X-original-sender: donald.koeleman@xxxxxxxxxx Precedence: normal Reply-To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx X-list: opendtv X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p9 (Debian) at avenirtech.net X-Virus-Status: Clean ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.