[opendtv] Re: 5G follies: The network that doesn't exist | InfoWorld
- From: Craig Birkmaier <brewmastercraig@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 20:47:41 -0500
On Feb 10, 2016, at 6:13 PM, Manfredi, Albert E
Craig, you are hopeless on this topic. Explain to us why you think that
having to subscrabe to an MVPD in any way precludes using a standard-based IP
appliance, rather than a proprietary box?
Nothing precludes this - about 75% of MVPD customers also use Netflix or other
OTT services like HBO Now. But this misses the point completely.
The discussion in recent threads has been about opening up the market for boxes
that connect to the MVPD umbilicals and satellites, not the Internet.
I pointed out that the TiVo Bolt does both. The Comcast X-Finity STB does both.
Other MSOs in the cable industry are rolling out boxes that do both.
Clearly the technologies that are being used to access OTT streams could also
access MVPD streams, IF the MVPD streams used the same IP based standards..
They do not.
It is not possible to upgrade the existing MVPD infrastructures to Internet
standards in a matter of months, even if the owners of these systems wanted
They do not.
When you use TVE, do you need to be attached to that proprietary box, Craig?
What would be the point of "everywhere," if that was limited to inside your
Obviously not. Why does you even ask when I have explained how TVE works
Or maybe, you think that TVE works by streaming content from your in-home box
to the Internet? Nope. Not how it works. There's something fundamental Craig
isn't getting, but I can't figure out what it is.
Give it up. You're wasting our time.
I HAVE explained how some MVPD STBs transcode in-band channels to h.264 and
stream this content to tables and smartphones in the home. This has NOTHING to
do with TVE.
But most important, Bert's fascination with OTT content has
NOTHING to do with the mandate to open up the market for MVPD
set top boxes.
MVPD content is already available to IP appliances. And more being added,
over time. This is not OTT content, even though for sure, in the future,
that's where the MVPDs are headed.
Correct. The question is not if, but when.
In the meantime, the FCC is once again launching an effort to open up the
market for STBs that work with their in-band services.
It is quite possible that this effort will fail, just as each of the previous
It is quite possible the MVPDs will tell the FCC that moving to the IP
standards you support is the best path to opening up the market - then drag
their heels for years upgrading their systems.
And Craig must have been stuck in some dark cave for these 20+ years, unaware
that now we have a ubiquitous, standardized, 2-way broadband network, with
standard appliances made by many companies, over which network TV signals
have been distributed, for some 10 years.
At best that's half the 20 years I noted. And The broadband services available
10 years ago were marginal at best - in 2006 when I bought my first movie from
iTunes it took five hours to download over my "state of the art" DSL
connection. The streaming TV market did not reach critical mass until 2009-2010.
None of this changes the reality of this discussion. With few exceptions,
In-band MVPD services do not currently use IP based protocols.
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