[opendtv] Re: 4 reasons broadband data caps must die | InfoWorld
- From: Craig Birkmaier <brewmastercraig@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2016 21:37:33 -0400
On Sep 10, 2016, at 7:30 PM, Manfredi, Albert E
<albert.e.manfredi@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Craig Birkmaier wrote:
No Bert, it is not their job.
Wrong again, Craig. In the real world, certain industries get unfair
advantages that the open market mechanisms cannot adequately self-regulate.
Correct. That is why we have anti-trust laws, the Department of Commerce, and
the Department of Justice. You might have notice over the years that here
agencies are involved in the approval of major M&A deals.
One of those industries are the utilities. The government has to play a role
in these cases, to regulate what would otherwise potentially go haywire.
No, the government chooses to play a role in these industries as they are the
source of massive tax revenues and regulatory fees, like those that help pay
for the FCC. And, as I have pointed out repeatedly, some of these industries
are critically important, with respect to propping up the "political
establishment."
Funny how the cost of many services comes down when the politicians allow a bit
of competition, like buying electricity from any company that puts power into
the electric grid.
When people are charged in the thousands of dollars extra per month, Craig?
WHO?
First read, then argue. Go back and re-read the article.
Even if the article stated this - it does not - it's not true.
Here are the exact words you are hanging your argument on...
Ars Technica this month recounted in exhaustive detail the experiences of
four Comcast customers in different parts of the country who were walloped
with exorbitant overage fees -- more than $1,500 in one case -- for broadband
they insist they couldn't possibly have consumed.
Not exactly a representative sample, even if it is true.
Note that the article does not say over what period of time these overage
charges accrued. At $10 for 50GB, that's 7.5 TB of overage charges. That's
5,250 hours of HD programming; or 14.38 hours per day for a year...
And then there is the "minor" detail that Comcast raised its caps to 1TB six
months ago, with unlimited data for an additional $50/ mo.
That's not the issue. The issue is what happens when everyone on a
node starts streaming in HD,
And you don't know what happens, Craig. You prefer to wave your arms, but you
are talking about things you don't know. I ask again: how did we manage to go
from only 4% video streaming online daily, to almost 50%, without a hiccup?
We didn't. Those numbers only exist in your head.
The simple point is, *if* congestion occurs, and I say again if, there are
automatic mechanisms in place that deal with that. The Internet does not
collapse. And on a continuing basis, ISPs monitor their traffic. As they
notice certain nodes becoming congested, they begin talking measures. Not in
10 years' time, as you keep telling us, but tomorrow. This is ongoing. Or
alternatively, they may get pissed off at whoever, like Netflix, and they
have the option of telling Netflix to get their butts in gear, and add
mirrored server capacity here and here and here, or risk the ire of their
subscribers.
Sorry Bert but that's just bull. You are telling us we must accept a level of
image quality you spent years telling us is unnecessary. Never mind that you
now accept 360P and 480P, because you won't pay for real broadband or a MVPD
bundle.
Yes, this costs them money, but it also makes them money, because it means
that more and more people are buying more and more fast service. In the
business world, this is called "investment." Companies invest, because they
know that there is a payoff tomorrow.
Yup. The entrenched incumbents continue to invest to keep up with demand. How
the hell do you think Comcast can raise its data caps to 1 TB.
But they are not adding unlimited capacity, because the number of subscribers
willing to pay for 1TB is still very small. The articles you have posted
confirm this.
They can get bank loans to invest, Craig. This is how the Internet has been
evolving ever since the early 1980s, which makes it a good 30+ years. This is
also how the telephone industry evolved, for more than a century.
Yup. Capacity is added as needed. But you can't take that to the bank. The
cable industry and many of the cable networks were built on money from "junk
bonds." And overbuilds are not happening because the numbers don't add up and
the risk is too high.
Have you tried to get a bank loan for a risky business lately? It's difficult
for established businesses.
Yeah. They can cut the MVPD cord, give up access to tons of content
Not at all. That's Craig playing the victim card again. As the subscribers
cut the legacy cord, the content owners aren't about to lose all of their
customers, so they provide online alternatives. We have already covered this
many times, and you're just arguing in your usual circles.
But those options DO NOT EXIST Bert. Then again, how would you know?
You keep watching the content I stopped watching several decades ago. And you
cannot watch the content "most" people in the U.S watch.
The Prime time audience for the broacast networks is now about 30% of homes;
this includes the C+7 viewers who use streaming services like Hulu. You could
make the case that much of what people are watching on Netflix is older "off
network" programming, as is the case for the MVPD rerun channels.
You have no idea what people are watching...
Regards
Craig
Bert
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