[opendtv] Re: 20050926 Mark's Monday Memo
- From: cbenham@xxxxxxxxxxx
- To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 19:36:08 +0000
Bert wrote:
"I don't know anyone who could get "perfect" NTSC
TV from 52 miles away, with an indoor antenna. With
ATSC, it is possible."
Bert, please supply a list of everyone you can find who can get ATSC
"perfectly" with an indoor antenna from 52 miles away.
I happen to be 52 miles from Baltimore and I have an indoor antenna,
a Silver Sensor, and I can't get ATSC with it even standing on my roof,
much less inside the house.
It takes a 7 element UHF yagi with a corner reflector 20 feet off the ground
and then reception is only partly reliable when the weather is favorable.
Go try out some of your ideas for real before you say they 'should' work.
> Craig Birkmaier wrote:
>
> > > No. The 15 percent are households with OTA TV only,
> > > not households that use both OTA and a subscription
> > > service.
> >
> > So you say. I have also hear the NAB say that 40
> > million homes still use OTA TV. There is much smoke
> > but little light in these claims.
>
> Let me put it this way. The low-ball estimate for
> OTA TV-only households has held steady at 15 percent.
> The higher estimates of up to 19 percent persist even
> today.
>
> The fact is, this 15 percent low-ball estimate has never
> included households that also subscribe to cable or DBS.
>
> > And please don't waste your time telling me that
> > no-one is forcing me to subscribe to cable or DBS.
>
> That's extremely funny, because I was just thinking
> "boo-hoo." You aren't forced to do anything. In fact,
> can't you opt to buy DBS service with no local
> programming? Just get all local programming OTA? That's
> the cheapest package, last I saw, for a multichannel
> service. Or you can do what I do and use OTA TV only.
>
> I'll bet, though, that the vast majority of cable
> subscribers *want* the local channels on their cable.
> And they willingly pay for this. Either that, or they
> are all under deep hypnosis.
>
> > Nobody is forcing me to buy gas at $3/gal, but the
> > alternative is not driving,
>
> Good analogy. The alternative is to drive sensible
> vehicles.
>
> > And I gave good reasons why I disagree. At BEST, you
> > are talking about 17 million homes.
>
> So you agree. That's about 40 million STBs, given that
> most homes have at least 2 TV sets. That's a huge
> number.
>
> > NTSC can produce something to watch even under
> > adverse conditions. With DTV its all or nothing.
>
> Nonsense. With NTSC, you might get something
> "watchable" but not good enough as a *permanent*
> solution. With DTT, indoors, when you get a reliable
> signal, it's "perfect." That's the difference.
> As the receivers get better, the cliff is moved
> further and further to where NTSC was quite bad.
> I don't know anyone who could get "perfect" NTSC
> TV from 52 miles away, with an indoor antenna. With
> ATSC, it is possible.
>
> > A professional installs the DBS antenna, which
> > works, or you don't pay. There is no issue of
> > having to receive signals from multiple
> > transmitters in different geographic locations.
>
> Let me see. If you need to use two satellites, you
> install two DBS antennas. If you need to receive
> OTA transmissions from two locations, you either
> install an omni antenna or two antennas with
> diplexer. Where is the issue?
>
> Bert
>
>
>
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