[opendtv] Re: 20050524 Twang's Tuesday Tribune (Mark's Monday Memo)

  • From: Mark Schubin <tvmark@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 09:14:18 -0400

Sure!  Thanks!

TTFN,
Mark


shlampen@xxxxxxx wrote:

>URL's added below.  Are you interested in other shows besides these?
> 
>Steve Lampen
>Belden Cable
> 
> 
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mark Schubin <tvmark@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Sent: Sun, 29 May 2005 11:24:31 -0400
>Subject: [opendtv] Re: 20050524 Twang's Tuesday Tribune (Mark's Monday Memo)
>
>Got URLs?
>
>TTFN,
>Mark
>
>
>shlampen@xxxxxxx wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Mark-
>>
>>There are a few tradeshows you should probably include at the end.
>>
>>The Iowa Public Television DTV Symposium, October 4-6, DesMoines IA 
>>    
>>
>www.iptv.org/dtv/2005/#start
>  
>
>>The AES, Javitz NYC, October 7-10
>>    
>>
>www.aes.org/events/119
>  
>
>>The Broadcaster's Clinic, Madison WI, October 11-13
>>    
>>
>www.wi-broadcasters.org
>
>  
>
>>The Broadcaster's Expo (and National SBE Meeting), Grapevine TX, October 19-20
>>    
>>
>
>www.bee2005.org
>  
>
>>BosCon, Boston MA, October 25-26
>>    
>>
>www.bos-con.com
>  
>
>>I will be a busy little boy in October!!
>>
>>Steve Lampen
>>Belden Cable
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Mark Schubin <tvmark@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>To: tvmark@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Sent: Tue, 24 May 2005 22:34:01 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
>>Subject: [opendtv] 20050524 Twang's Tuesday Tribune (Mark's Monday Memo)
>>
>>
>>    Here are some very efficient (low-administrative-cost) relief 
>>    
>>
>organizations 
>  
>
>>(all have four-star ratings from CharityNavigator.org):
>><http://www.americares.org/>
>><http://www.redcross.org/donate/donate.html>
>><http://www.directrelief.org/index.html>
>><http://www.hopeww.org/>
>><http://www.mercycorps.org/splash/>
>>
>>
>>- Follow-ups:
>>
>>    - Cable vs. Telco - USA Today has coverage:
>><http://www.usatoday.com/money/media/2005-05-22-telco-tv-cover-usat_x.htm>
>>
>>    - Blu-ray and HD DVD - Kunio Nakamura, president of Matsushita, says the 
>>talks are dead, according to Electronic Engineering Times:
>><http://www.eet.com/news/latest/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=163105945>
>>
>>    - The "hard-date" bill - 
>>         - Many news organizations seems to have gotten a draft copy prepared 
>>by the House Commerce Committee staff.  I didn't.  But here's what they 
>>report 
>>is in it:
>>              - There will be a hearing on Thursday at 11:30 am in 2322 
>>    
>>
>Rayburn 
>  
>
>>House Office Building.
>>              - The analog cut-off date would be December 31, 2008.
>>              - There is no multicast or full-stream must-carry, but there is 
>>digital must-carry (without degradation) for must-carry stations.  Analog 
>>conversion and carriage would be optional.  One source reports a sunset of 
>>the 
>>must-carry in mid-2013.
>>              - There was no agreement on a subsidy, so it's not in the draft.
>>              - The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) would have to 
>> make 
>>    
>>
>
>  
>
>>final channel assignments by the end of 2006, and appeals would have to be 
>>finished seven months later.
>>              - The auction of the analog spectrum would take place April 1, 
>>2008.
>>              - All sets 13-inch and larger would require DTT-reception 
>>circuitry as of July 1, 2006, a year early.
>>              - Within 45 days of the legislation becoming final, TVs would 
>>have to carry warning labels if they lack DTT-reception circuitry.  In the 
>>second half of 2008, broadcasters would also have to air announcements of 
>>impending doom for analog-set owners.  Cable & satellite operators would have 
>>    
>>
>to 
>  
>
>>put stuff in their monthly bills.
>>         - Here are some URLs:
>>              - Broadcasting & Cable -- a paid subscription is required for 
>>    
>>
>the 
>  
>
>>full story: 
>><http://tinyurl.com/bar9f>
>><http://tinyurl.com/dqjm8>
>>              - Reuters:
>><http://tinyurl.com/ck67b>
>>              - Multichannel News:
>><http://tinyurl.com/cjfxa>
>>              - MediaWeek:
>><http://tinyurl.com/9hxge>
>>              - Others:
>><http://www.tvweek.com/news.cms?newsId=7872>
>><http://www.eet.com/news/latest/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=163700309>
>><http://msnbc.msn.com/id/7957542/>
>><http://www.twice.com/article/CA603506?display=Breaking+News>
>>         - Thirteen legislators from states with significant translator use 
>>asked that there be a more gradual schedule for translators, according to 
>>Broadcasting & Cable.  The full story requires a paid subscription:
>><http://tinyurl.com/dbf4t>
>>         - Here's a story on the stalled talks about a subsidy:
>><http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=776719&page=2>
>>         - In a bizarre move, Senate Commerce Committee head Ted Stevens 
>> wants 
>>    
>>
>
>  
>
>>to force manufacturers to provide set-top boxes with analog sets.  "I don't 
>>    
>>
>know 
>  
>
>>why these foreign manufacturers shouldn't shift over to digital, and if they 
>>don't, they should give us a box":
>><http://www.tvweek.com/news.cms?newsId=7883>
>>         - The National Association of Broadcasters (NAB) released the copy 
>> of 
>>    
>>
>
>  
>
>>an ad regarding a hard analog cut-off.  "Don't give over 20 million American 
>>homes a snow job."  "Congress needs to make sure that the people across 
>>America 
>>    
>>
>
>  
>
>>who rely on the 73 million analog television sets not hooked up to cable or 
>>satellite aren't given a snow job by electronics manufacturers":
>><http://www.tvweek.com/news.cms?newsId=7869>
>>
>>    - July 1 - 
>>         - This week I've listed 116 advertised TVs 36-inch or larger.  Of 
>>those, 34 (29%) have integrated DTT-reception capability.  
>>         - See also the ads section for inexpensive non-integrated sets that 
>>are HD and/or widescreen.
>>      - TV sets that required DTT-reception circuitry starting 2004:
>>        - RCA 36E20 36-inch TV @ Broadway $259
>>        - Sony 36S45 36-inch TV @ Universal $319
>>        - Sony Wega 36-inch TV @ Royal $549
>>        - Sony Wega 36FS10 36-inch TV @ Universal $519
>>        - Sony Wega 36fs100 36-inch TV @ Broadway $589
>>        - Sony Wega 36sf100 36-inch TV @ Universal $549
>>        - Toshiba 36455 36-inch TV w/stand @ Center City $289
>>        - Toshiba 36E60 36-inch TV @ Broadway $269
>>        - Toshiba 36E60 36-inch TV @ CEW $269
>>        - Toshiba 36E60 36-inch TV @ Royal $298
>>        - Toshiba 36H45 36-inch TV @ Universal $279
>>        - RCA ZA46 46-inch projection TV @ Royal $397
>>        - RCA 50929 50-inch projection TV @ Center City $399 DV SS
>>        - Toshiba 50-inch projection TV @ Broadway $469
>>        - Toshiba 50-inch projection TV @ CEW $449
>>        - Toshiba 50A60 50-inch projection TV @ Royal $428
>>        - Zenith ZA50 50-inch projection TV @ Universal $409 DV
>>        - Sony 53-inch projection TV @ Broadway $549
>>        - Sony 53-inch projection TV @ CEW $498
>>        - Sony 53S65 53-inch projection TV @ Center City $498 DV SS
>>        - Sony 53S65 53-inch projection TV @ Royal $498
>>        - Sony 53S65 53-inch projection TV @ Universal $519
>>        - Zenith 53-inch projection TV @ CEW $449
>>        - RCA 61-inch projection TV @ CEW $649
>>        - Sony 61-inch projection TV @ Broadway $699
>>        - Sony 61-inch projection TV @ CEW $749
>>        - Sony 61S75 61-inch projection TV @ Center City $589 DV SS
>>        - Sony 61S75 61-inch projection TV @ Royal $598
>>        - Sony 61S75 61-inch projection TV @ Universal $624 DV
>>        - Toshiba 61H60 61-inch projection TV @ Center City $614 DV SS
>>        - Toshiba 61H60 61-inch projection TV @ Royal $618
>>        - Zenith 61-inch projection TV @ Broadway $599
>>        - RCA 65-inch projection TV @ Broadway $789
>>        - Samsung 65-inch projection TV @ CEW $849
>>        - Sony 65-inch projection TV @ Broadway $899
>>        - Sony 65S65 65-inch projection TV @ Royal $739
>>        - Sony 65S75 65-inch projection TV @ Universal $769
>>        - Sony 65V75 65-inch projection TV @ Center City $729 DV SS
>>        - Toshiba 65H65 65-inch projection TV @ Universal $689
>>        DV - price includes DVD player
>>        SS - price includes surround-sound system
>>      - TV sets that would require DTT-reception circuitry starting 2005:
>>        - RCA 25-inch TV @ Royal $98
>>        - Sony 27S45 27-inch TV @ Broadway $159
>>        - Sony 27S45 27-inch TV @ Center City $139
>>        - Sony 27S45 27-inch TV @ CEW $159
>>        - Sony 27S45 27-inch TV @ Royal $144
>>        - Sony 27S45 27-inch TV @ Universal $159
>>        - Sony Wega 27FS10 27-inch TV @ Royal $229
>>        - Sony Wega 27FS10 27-inch TV @ Universal $239
>>        - Sony Wega 27fs100 27-inch TV @ Broadway $239
>>        - Sony Wega 27sf100 27-inch TV @ CEW $219
>>        - Toshiba 27H45 27-inch TV @ Universal $139
>>        - Toshiba 27H50 27-inch TV @ Center City $129
>>        - Toshiba 27H50 27-inch TV @ Royal $139
>>        - Zenith 32Z30 32-inch TV @ Broadway $169
>>      - Devices that would require DTT-reception circuitry in 2007:
>>        - "Famous Brand" 13-inch TV @ Broadway $49
>>        - "Famous Brand" 13-inch TV @ CEW $49
>>        - "Famous Brand" 13-inch TV @ Universal $49
>>        - "Famous Maker" 13-inch TV @ Royal $58
>>        - Mystery brand 13-inch TV @ Circuit City $59.99
>>        - "Famous Brand" 19-inch TV @ Broadway $69
>>        - "Famous Brand" 19-inch TV @ CEW $69
>>        - "Famous Brand" 19-inch TV @ Universal $65
>>        - "Famous Maker" 19-inch TV @ Royal $78
>>        - Toshiba 19A24/25 19-inch TV @ Best Buy $104.99
>>        - Philips 20PT6441/37 20-inch flat-screen TV @ Sears $169.99 
>>        - "Famous Brand" VCR @ Royal $29.99
>>        - "Famous Maker" VCR @ Universal $29.98
>>        - Samsung DVDV4600A DVD/VCR combo @ Sears $99.88
>>        - Toshiba SD-V393 DVD/VCR combo @ Best Buy $99.99
>>        - GoVideo R6640 DVD+R/RW recorder @ P.C. Richard $148.97
>>        - GoVideo R6740 DVD+R/RW recorder @ J&R $169.99
>>        - GoVideo VR1940 VCR/DVD+R/RW recorder combo @ P.C. Richard $199.97
>>        - Humax DRT800 TiVo/DVD recorder @ J&R $279.99
>>        - Panasonic DMR-E75 DVD recorder @ Soho $249
>>        - Panasonic DMR-ES10 DVD recorder @ Panasonic $199.95
>>        - Panasonic DMRES10S DVD rec. w/5 blank DVD-RAM @ Circuit $199.99
>>        - Panasonic DMR-ES30VS VCR/DVD recorder combo @ Panasonic $299.95
>>        - Philips DVDR77 DVD+R/RW recorder @ J&R $179.99
>>        - Philips DVDR615 DVD recorder @ Target $249.99
>>        - Samsung DVDR120 DVD-R/RAM/RW recorder @ Best Buy $179.99
>>        - Compaq 5000C series computer w/TV tuner @ Soho $629
>>        - HP Brio series computer w/TV tuner @ Soho $719
>>        - HPM7060N computer w/TV tuner @ Circuit City $1149.99
>>        - Sony computer w/TV tuner @ CEW $719
>>        - Sony computer w/TV tuner @ Universal $799
>>        - Sony 560X computer w/TV tuner @ Soho $809
>>        - Toshiba AV501 laptop w/TV tuner @ Best Buy $2449.99 AR
>>        AR - price after mail-in rebate
>>      - Devices that would require dual DTT-reception circuitry in 2007:
>>        - Sylvania 6719DF 19-inch TV/VCR/DVD combo @ Best Buy $199.99
>>        - Sylvania SRC2213W 13-inch TV/VCR combo @ Sears $94.88
>>        - Sylvania SRC2419 19-inch TV/VCR combo @ Sears $149.88
>>      - Devices not covered by the mandate but using analog TV broadcasts:
>>        - Vector VEC135 5-inch TV/AM/FM/weather/lights @ Home Depot $59.99
>>         - Readers have asked how to get hold of some of the non-national 
>>retailers, so look for their phone numbers at the bottom of the memo.
>>
>>    - May 1 -
>>         - The FCC has not updated its lists since April 7. 
>>         - The NAB updated their list to 1497 U.S. DTT stations operating in 
>>211 markets as of May 20:
>><http://www.nab.org/newsroom/issues/digitaltv/dtvstations.asp>
>>
>>- The Society of Broadcast Engineers is planning to offer a "specialist 
>>certification" in 8-VSB:
>><http://broadcastengineering.com/newsletters/bth/20050522/#sbe>
>>
>>- There's nothing particularly new about an article called "The Multipath to 
>>Clarity: Receiving HDTV over the air takes luck and lots of patience," by 
>>    
>>
>Philip 
>  
>
>>Yam, except the location -- Scientific American online:
>><http://tinyurl.com/cmxd9>
>>
>>- Perhaps it's, therefore, worth noting that satellite-TV reception seems to 
>>be 
>>    
>>
>
>  
>
>>easy, even in moving vehicles with phased-array antennas:
>><http://www.detnews.com/2005/autosconsumer/0505/23/A01-190193.htm>
>>
>>- The deadline for submissions for the National Academy of Television Arts & 
>>Sciences Advanced Media Technology Emmy Awards has been extended to the end 
>>of 
>>this month.  These awards are different from the same organization's 
>>    
>>
>engineering 
>  
>
>>awards:
>><http://www.emmyonline.tv/emmy/advmedia.html>
>>
>>- International H/DTV news: 
>>
>>    - Here's an overiew of DTT in Australia (including reception problems) in 
>>the Melbourne Age:
>><http://tinyurl.com/bfv4b>
>>
>>    - The European Commission has reportedly set a target date for analog 
>>cut-off of 2012 for all 25 countries in the European Union.  Finland and 
>>Sweden 
>>    
>>
>
>  
>
>>are planning 2007 and 2008, respectively.  This story is from Interactive 
>>Investor quoting AFX:
>><http://tinyurl.com/d262y>
>>
>>    - The BBC has narrowed the list of companies to whom it may sell BBC 
>>Broadcast to four.  Ascent didn't make the cut, but Thomson/Technicolor did:
>><http://tinyurl.com/dlw3j>
>>
>>    - Here's an interesting story about a BBC response to piracy:
>><http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0%2C1284%2C67552%2C00.html>
>>
>>- Register quickly for free admission to the SMPTE Editing Showcase in New 
>>York 
>>    
>>
>
>  
>
>>on June 1.  This URL is about the event:
>><http://www.smpte.org/conferences/editshowhome.cfm>
>>This one is to register:
>><http://www.smpteny.org/smpteny/event.asp>.
>>
>>- The deadline for abstracts of papers to be presented at the 55th annual 
>>IEEE 
>>Broadcast Symposium in Washington October 12-14 has been extended to June 8.  
>>Contact <a.nakamura@xxxxxxxx>.
>>
>>- So, you thought the Sony HVR-Z1U HDV camcorder was small & light?  The 
>>    
>>
>HVR-A1U 
>  
>
>>is even smaller & lighter:
>><http://news.sel.sony.com/pressrelease/5925>
>>    Not small & light enough for you?  The HDR-HC1 is an HDV camcorder 
>>    
>>
>weighing 
>  
>
>>1.5 lbs (including lens) and priced at $2000:
>><http://news.sel.sony.com/pressrelease/5930>
>>
>>- At the Society for Information Display conference, Samsung Electronics LCD 
>>president Sang-Wan Lee said LCD sizes would soon exceed 100-inch diagonals.  
>>"Size should no longer be considered an issue."  It is if you live in an 
>>apartment:
>><http://www.eet.com/news/design/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=163700544>
>>
>>- The Consumer Electronics Association's (CEA) latest survey shows an average 
>>    
>>
>of 
>  
>
>>3.1 TV sets per home, up from 2.4 last year.  It also shows HD in 13% 
>>(presumably displays), flat-panel TVs in 10%, and DVRs in almost 10%:
>><http://www.ce.org/press_room/press_release_detail.asp?id=10753>
>>
>>- Based on figures from CEA, sales to U.S. dealers of non-H/DTV television 
>>sets 
>>    
>>
>
>  
>
>>for the first 17 weeks of 2005 were down 10.4% from the same period in 2004; 
>>my 
>>    
>>
>
>  
>
>>ten-week running average was down 8.5%.
>>    Sales of so-called "Digital Televisions" to U.S. dealers for the 17th 
>> week 
>>    
>>
>
>  
>
>>were 120,238 units and for the first 17 weeks 1,273,493.
>>    "Digital Televisions" (most of which are HDTV displays without 
>>DTT-reception capability) still accounted for about 16.1% of the TVs (not 
>>counting plasma or direct-view LCD) sold to U.S. dealers through the 17th 
>>week 
>>this year.  It may be worth noting here what that means.  About 84% of the 
>>non-plasma, non-direct-view-LCD TVs sold through the 17th week this year were 
>>still plain non-H/DTV direct-view TVs with picture tubes.  The last time CEA 
>>released numbers allowing the LCD and plasma TVs to be included, they raised 
>>    
>>
>the 
>  
>
>>"digital" percentage to about 25%; I suspect it is higher now.
>>    To qualify to CEA as a "Digital Television," a display need only be 
>>    
>>
>capable 
>  
>
>>of dealing with at least 480p; it need not be capable of either receiving 
>>digital signals or displaying them.  Devices actually capable of receiving 
>>DTT 
>>signals are still a small fraction of those numbers.
>>
>>- Ads for set-top DTT receivers:  I'm aware of only the DirecTV models at 
>>Best 
>>Buy, Circuit City, and Value Electronics.
>>
>>- The ads - Readers have asked how to get hold of some of the non-national 
>>retailers, so look for their phone numbers at the bottom of the memo.
>>    The model numbers are so hard to make out in the Center City ad that I 
>>might have gotten them wrong (but I'm pretty sure they got at least one 
>>wrong, 
>>too).
>>    Panasonic offered a $300 rebate on installation costs.
>> - Best Buy (some HD disclaimers only):
>>   - DirecTV H10 DirecTV/ATSC receiver/decoder $299.99
>>   - Home-theater package with Toshiba 26HF84A $979.96
>>   - Home theater package with Philips 30PW9100D/37 $1669.96
>>   - LG 52SX4D 52-inch wide DLP integr. proj. DTV w/$85RC $2659.99
>>   - Maxent MX-42VM10 42-inch widescreen plasma TV $1799.99 BS
>>   - Mitsubishi WS-65315 65-inch 16:9 projection TV w/$60RC $1899.99
>>   - Panasonic TH-37PX50U 37-inch 16:9 integr. plasma DTV w/$90RC $2849.99
>>   - Panasonic TH-50PX50U 50-inch 16:9 integrated plasma DTV $4999.99 BS
>>   - Samsung HL-R5667W 56-inch 16:9 integr. DLP proj. TV w/$95RC $2944.99
>>   - Samsung HL-R6167W 61-inch 16:9 integr. DLP proj. TV $3324.99
>>   - Samsung HPR4252 42-inch wide integr. plasma DTV w/$110RC $3324.99
>>   - Samsung LNR238W 23-inch 16:9 LCD TV w/$30RC $1044.99
>>   - Sharp LC26GA5U 26-inch widescreen LCD TV w/$50RC $1614.99
>>   - Sony KDF42WE655 42-inch 16:9 integr. LCD proj. DTV w/$75RC $2374.99
>>   - Sony KDF50WE655 50-inch 16:9 integrated LCD projection DTV $2659.99
>>   - Sony KLVS23A10 23-inch widescreen LCD TV w/$65RC $1234.99
>>   - Sony KV30HS420 30-inch 16:9 direct-view CRT TV $899.99
>>   - Sony KV32FS120 32-inch 4:3 direct-view CRT TV $569.99
>>   - Sony KV36FS120 36-inch 4:3 direct-view CRT TV $899.99 BS
>>   - Toshiba 51H84 51-inch 16:9 projection TV w/$45RC $1499.99
>>   - Westinghouse LVM-37W1 37-inch widescreen LCD monitor w/$70RC $2184.99
>>   - Zenith P42W46X 42-inch 16:9 plasma TV w/$60RC $1899.99
>>   BS - price "before savings"
>>   RC - price includes "reward certificates" of amount shown
>> - The Big Screen Store (Washington Post, no disclaimer):
>>   - Mitsubishi 50-inch widescreen plasma TV $4999
>>   - Mitsubishi 52-inch integrated projection DTV
>>   - Mitsubishi 62-inch widescreen DLP projection TV $2999
>> - Broadway Computers & Electronics (am New York, no disclaimer):
>>   - Panasonic 42-inch 16:9 plasma TV $1499
>>   - Sony 20-inch widescreen LCD TV $649
>> - Center City Computers & Electronics (am New York, no disclaimer):
>>   - Panasonic PT43LC14 43-inch LCD projection TV $1699 
>>   - Samsung 42-inch 16:9 plasma TV $1499 
>>   - Sony 61Z577 [?] 60-inch 16:9 LCD [projection] TV $2599 
>>   - Sony KF50WE610 50-inch 16:9 LCD projection TV $1999 
>> - Circuit City (HD IDs only):
>>   - Akai PT4299HD 42-inch 16:9 projection TV $799.99
>>   - DirecTV H10 DirecTV/ATSC receiver/decoder $299.99
>>   - DirecTV HR10250 ATSC/DirecTV receiver/PVR $699.99
>>   - ESA PDP4294LVI 42-inch 16:9 plasma TV $1799.99
>>   - Hitachi 51F510 51-inch 16:9 CRT projection TV $1699.99
>>   - Magnavox 15MF150V 15-inch 4:3 LCD TV $287.99
>>   - Magnavox 32MF605W 32-inch widescreen LCD TV $1499.99
>>   - Panasonic TC32LX20 32-inch widescreen LCD TV $2299.99
>>   - Panasonic TH42PD50U 42-inch 16:9 integrated plasma DTV $2499.99
>>   - Panasonic TH42PX50U 42-inch 16:9 integrated plasma DTV $3499.99
>>   - Panasonic TH50PX50U 50-inch 16:9 integrated plasma DTV $4999.99
>>   - Sharp LC20SH4U 13-inch 4:3 LCD direct-view TV $649.99
>>   - Sony KDF55WF655 55-inch 16:9 integr. LCD proj. DTV w/$155RC $3099.99
>>   - Sony KP46WT520 46-inch 16:9 projection TV $1499.99
>>   - Sony KV30HS420 30-inch 16:9 direct-view CRT TV $999.99
>>   RC - price includes "rewards certificate" of amount shown
>> - CompUSA (appropriate disclaimer):
>>   - Mystery brand 23-inch LCD TV $499.99 AR
>>   - Mystery brand LT27HV 27-inch widescreen LCD TV $699.99 AR
>>   AR - price after mail-in rebate
>> - Computers & Electronics Warehouse (am New York, no disclaimer):
>>   - Panasonic 42-inch 16:9 plasma TV $1499
>>   - Samsung 42-inch plasma TV $1599
>> - Dell (New York Times, some HD IDs):
>>   - Dell 42-inch widescreen plasma TV $1999
>>   - Dell 42-inch widescreen integrated plasma DTV $2999
>>   - Dell 3300MP projector $1280
>>   - Dell W1900 19-inch widescreen LCD TV $699
>>   - Dell W2600 26-inch widescreen LCD TV $1599 (yes, higher)
>>   - Dell W3000 30-inch widescreen LCD TV $1499 (yes, lower)
>> - Fry's (Los Angeles Times, HD logos only):
>>   - Mystery brand (Olevia Syntax) 27-inch widescreen LCD TV $699
>>   - Mystery brand (Olevia Syntax) 32-inch widescreen LCD TV $1,499
>>   - Samsung HLP4663W 46-inch 16:9 DLP projection TV $1499
>> - Good Guys (Los Angeles Times, appropriate disclaimer):
>>   - Mitsubishi WT-42315 42-inch 16:9 CRT projection TV $999
>>   - ViewSonic N2750W 27-inch widescreen LCD direct-view TV $849 AR
>>   - Zenith C27V36 27-inch 4:3 direct-view CRT TV $324 AR
>>   AR - price after mail-in rebate
>> - Harvey (New York Times, no disclaimer necessary):
>>   - Pioneer PRO1120HD 50-inch 16:9 integrated plasma DTV
>> - J&R (am New York, no disclaimer):
>>   - Hitachi 60VS810 60-inch 16:9 integrated LCD projection DTV $2999.99
>>   - LG 26LX2D 26-inch 16:9 integrated LCD DTV $1699.99
>>   - Panasonic TH-42PX25U/P 42-inch 16:9 integrated plasma DTV $3299.99
>>   - Philips 42PF9936 42-inch 16:9 plasma TV $1999.99
>>   - Samsung HL-R4266W 42-inch 16:9 integrated DLP projection TV $1999.99
>>   - Samsung HL-R5067W 50-inch 16:9 integrated DLP projection TV 
>>   - Samsung SP-R4232 42-inch 16:9 integrated plasma DTV 
>>   - Westinghouse W33001 30-inch 16:9 direct-view LCD TV $1099.99
>> - J&R (New York Times, no disclaimer):
>>   - InFocus LP540 projector $1199.99
>>   - Panasonic TH-42PX25U/P 42-inch 16:9 integrated plasma DTV $3299.99
>>   - Panasonic TH42PX50U 42-inch 16:9 integrated plasma DTV
>>   - Philips 32PF9966 32-inch 16:9 LCD TV $2299.99
>>   - Philips 42PF9936 42-inch 16:9 plasma TV $1999.99
>>   - Philips 42PF9996 42-inch 16:9 LCD TV $4499.99
>>   - Philips 50PF9966 50-inch 16:9 plasma TV $5199.99
>>   - Samsung HL-P6163W 61-inch 16:9 DLP projection TV $2699.99
>>   - Samsung HL-R5067W 50-inch 16:9 integrated DLP projection DTV
>>   - Samsung HP-P3761 37-inch 16:9 plasma TV $2499.99
>>   - Sharp LC-20B6U-S 20-inch 4:3 LCD direct-view TV $799.99
>>   - Sharp LC-26D5U 26-inch widescreen integrated LCD DTV $1499.99
>>   - Toshiba 14DLV75 14-inch LCD TV/DVD combo $499.99
>>   - Toshiba 32HL84 32-inch widescreen LCD TV $1999.99
>>   - Westinghouse LTV-32w1 32-inch widescreen LCD monitor $1599.99
>> - MyerEmco (Washington Post, no disclaimer necessary):
>>   - Samsung SPR4232 42-inch 16:9 integrated plasma DTV $2399
>>   - Sony KDF42WE655 42-inch 16:9 integrated LCD projection DTV $2299
>> - Panasonic (appropriate disclaimer):
>>   - Panasonic PT-61LCX65 61-inch widescreen integr. proj. DTV $3199.95
>>   - Panasonic TH-37PX50U 37-inch 16:9 integr. plasma DTV $2999.95
>>   - Panasonic TH-42PX50U 42-inch 16:9 integr. plasma DTV $3499.95
>>   - Panasonic TH-50PX50U 50-inch 16:9 integr. plasma DTV $4999.95
>> - Paul's (Los Angeles Times, no disclaimer):
>>   - Mitsubishi WD-52327 52-inch 16:9 projection TV $2495 EL
>>   - Panasonic TH-42PD50U 42-inch 16:9 integrated plasma DTV $2495 EL
>>   EL - price "even lower now"
>> - P.C. Richard (am New York, no disclaimer):
>>   - Philips 23PF8946 23-inch widescreen LCD TV $799.97
>> - P.C. Richard (New York Times, some disclaimers):
>>   - Audiovox FPE2005 20-inch 4:3 LCD TV $499.97
>>   - Mitsubishi WD52327 52-inch 16:9 projection TV $1999.99
>>   - Philips 42PF9936 42-inch 16:9 plasma TV $1999.97
>>   - Samsung HLP5685W 56-inch 16:9 DLP projection TV $2999.97
>>   - Sharp LC20B6US 20-inch 4:3 LCD direct-view TV $899.97
>>   - Sony KDE42XBR950 42-inch 16:9 integrated plasma DTV $4995.97
>> - Royal Computers & Electronics (am New York, no disclaimer):
>>   - Mystery brand 42-inch flat-panel TV $1699
>> - Sears (Minneapolis Star Tribune, no disclaimer):
>>   - Hitachi 42EDT41 42-inch 16:9 plasma TV $2499.99
>>   - JVC AV56P575 56-inch 16:9 projection TV $1699.99
>>   - Philips 30PW6341/37 30-inch 16:9 direct-view CRT TV $499.99
>>   - Sharp LC26GA5U 26-inch widescreen LCD TV $1799.99
>>   - Sony KDF42WE655 42-inch 16:9 integrated LCD projection DTV $2499.99
>>   - Sony KV32HS420 32-inch 4:3 direct-view CRT TV $999.99
>> - Sears (Washington Post, no disclaimer):
>>   - Mitsubishi WS55315 55-inch 16:9 projection TV $1424.99
>> - Soho Electric (New York Press, no disclaimer):
>>   - Champion 20-inch 4:3 LCD TV $499
>>   - Panasonic TH-42PW5 42-inch widescreen plasma TV $1699
>>   - Panasonic TH-50PHD 50-inch widescreen plasma TV $3799
>>   - Samsung HP-P5031 50-inch widescreen plasma TV $2999
>> - Universal Computers & Electronics (am New York, no disclaimer):
>>   - Panasonic 37-inch flat-panel TV $1599
>>   - Samsung 42-inch flat-panel TV $1499
>>   - Sony 42-inch flat-panel TV $1899
>> - Value Electronics (New York Times, no disclaimer):
>>   - DirecTV HR10-250 ATSC/DirecTV receiver/PVR $699
>> - Video & Audio Center (Los Angeles Times, no disclaimer):
>>   - Sony KDE50XS955 50-inch 16:9 integrated plasma DTV $6997 BS
>>   - Sony KDF42WE655 42-inch 16:9 integrated LCD projection DTV $2497 BS
>>   - Sony KE42TS2 42-inch 16:9 plasma TV $3497
>>   BS - price "before savings"
>>
>>- DVD news:  According to CEA, sales of DVD players to U.S. dealers for the 
>>first 17 weeks of 2005 were down 33.3% from the same period in 2004; my 
>>    
>>
>ten-week 
>  
>
>>running average was down 27.4%.  VCR sales were down 45.6%.
>>
>>- PVR/DVR news:  A study conducted for ESPN by Horowitz Associates in 2004 
>>    
>>
>found 
>  
>
>>that, of 157 households with either cable or stand-alone PVRs, 90 returned 
>>    
>>
>them.  
>  
>
>>A third didn't skip ads ("sometimes it's too much work to fast forward"), 
>>    
>>
>others 
>  
>
>>watched "relevant" ads, and even the rest still "retained awareness" of 
>>commercials.  "It's like driving.  You don't stop to read the billboards, but 
>>you see them."  This story is from MediaWeek:
>><http://tinyurl.com/djwh7>
>>
>>- Philips 3D Solutions has come up with a way of delivering three-dimensional 
>>images on mobile phones:
>><http://www.eet.com/news/latest/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=163700478>
>>
>>- Interested in being kept up to date on developments in carrying 2K imagery 
>>through standard infrastructure?  Contact Pete Challinger <petec@xxxxxxxxx>.
>>
>>- Upcoming Dates (DTV and non-DTV):
>>
>>    - Through May 27, Hynes Convention Center, Boston, SID International 
>>Symposium 2005 <http://www.sid.org/conf/sid2005/sid2005.html>.
>>    - May 23, Wichita State University, Kansas, Taste of NAB Road Show 
>><http://www.tech-notes.tv/2005/12-Wichita.htm>.
>>    - May 24, WMAQ, Chicago, PSIP and MPEG Compliance in Practice 
>><http://www.trivenidigital.com/seminars/>.
>>    - May 26, Dallas, Taste of NAB Road Show 
>> <http://www.tech-notes.tv/2005/13-Dallas.htm>.
>>    - May 26, WOSU, Columbus, Ohio, PSIP and MPEG Compliance in Practice 
>><http://www.trivenidigital.com/seminars/>.
>>    - May 28-31, CCIB, Barcelona, 118th AES Convention 
>> <http://www.aes.org/events/118/>.
>>    - May 30-June 3, Southern Alberta Institute of Technology, Calgary, 
>>SAIT/WABE Broadcast Training Seminar <wayne.watson@xxxxxxx> 
>>    
>>
><http://www.wabe.ca/>.
>  
>
>>    - May 31-June 2, Long Beach Convention Center, ISCe 2005 Satellite & 
>>Communications <http://www.isce.com/>.
>>    - May 31, Austin, Texas, Taste of NAB Road Show 
>> <http://www.tech-notes.tv/2005/14-Austin-.htm>
>>    - *June 1, New York Hilton, SMPTE Editing Showcase 
>> <http://www.smpteny.org/smpteny/event.asp>.
>>    - June 1-3, Earls Court 2, London, Broadcast Production Show 
>><http://www.productionshow.com/>.
>>    - June 4-10, Las Vegas Convention Center, Infocomm 2005 
>><http://infocomm05.expoexchange.com/>.
>>    - June 6, Weslaco, Texas, Taste of NAB Road Show 
>> <http://www.tech-notes.tv/2005/16-Weslaco.htm>.
>>    - June 7, St. Louis, PSIP and MPEG Compliance in Practice 
>><http://www.trivenidigital.com/seminars/>.
>>    - June 7-8, Universal City (Los Angeles), Digital Media Summit 2005 
>><http://www.ihollywoodforum.com/digitalmediasummit2005.htm>.
>>    - June 8, Corpus Christi, Texas, Taste of NAB Road Show 
>><http://www.tech-notes.tv/2005/17-Corpus%20Christi.htm>.
>>    - June 9, KRMA, Denver, PSIP and MPEG Compliance in Practice 
>><http://www.trivenidigital.com/seminars/>.
>>    - June 10, Houston, Taste of NAB Road Show 
>> <http://www.tech-notes.tv/2005/18-Houston.htm>.
>>    - June 13, Lamar State College, Port Arthur, Texas (Beaumont/Lake 
>>    
>>
>Charles), 
>  
>
>>Taste of NAB Road Show 
>><http://www.tech-notes.tv/2005/19-Beaumont_%20Lake%20Charles.htm>.
>>    - *June 13, Hollywood Pacific Theater, digital screening of "Crash," RSVP 
>><http://www.etcenter.org/Seminars.asp>.
>>    - June 13-17, Singapore Expo, BroadcastAsia 2005 (including SMPTE DC28 
>>meeting) <http://www.broadcast-asia.com/Conference.html>.
>>    - June 14, Courtyard Marriott, Shreveport, Louisiana, Taste of NAB Road 
>>Show <http://www.tech-notes.tv/2005/20-Shreveport.htm>.
>>    - June 14, Daystar Television, Bedford (Dallas area), Texas, PSIP and 
>> MPEG 
>>    
>>
>
>  
>
>>Compliance in Practice <http://www.trivenidigital.com/seminars/>.
>>    - June 14-16, Macau, IEEE International Symposium on Consumer Electronics 
>><http://www.ieee.org.hk/>
>>    - June 14-17, Gonzalez Convention Center, San Antonio, Cable-Tec Expo 
>><http://expo.scte.org/index.html>.
>>    - June 16, KTRK, Houston, PSIP and MPEG Compliance in Practice 
>><http://www.trivenidigital.com/seminars/>.
>>    - June 17, Jackson, Mississippi, Taste of NAB Road Show, 
>><http://www.tech-notes.tv/2005/21-Jackson.htm>.
>>    - June 20, New Orleans, Taste of NAB Road Show 
>> <http://www.tech-notes.tv/2005/22-New%20Orleans.htm>.
>>    - June 21, Boston, PSIP and MPEG Compliance in Practice 
>><http://www.trivenidigital.com/seminars/>.
>>    - June 22, Colonial Financial Center, Montgomery, Alabama, Taste of NAB 
>>Road Show <http://www.tech-notes.tv/2005/23-Montgomrty.htm>.
>>    - June 23, KGW, Portland, Oregon, PSIP and MPEG Compliance in Practice 
>><http://www.trivenidigital.com/seminars/>.
>>    - June 24, Jacksonville, Florida, Taste of NAB Road Show 
>><http://www.tech-notes.tv/2005/24-Jacksonville.htm>.
>>    - June 27, Orlando, Taste of NAB Road Show 
>> <http://www.tech-notes.tv/2005/25-Orlando.htm>.
>>    - June 27-30, Amsterdam RAI, Cinema Expo 
>> <http://www.vnufilmgroup.com/filmgroup/cinemaexpo/index.jsp>.
>>    - June 28, KGO-TV, San Francisco, PSIP and MPEG Compliance in Practice 
>><http://www.trivenidigital.com/seminars/>.
>>    - June 28-30, Javits Convention Center, New York, Entertainment 
>> Technology 
>>    
>>
>
>  
>
>>Alliance Summit <http://www.etaexpo.com/register.html>.
>>    - June 29, Tampa, Taste of NAB Road Show 
>> <http://www.tech-notes.tv/2005/26-Tampa.htm>.
>>    - June 30, KABC, Glendale (Los Angeles area), California, PSIP and MPEG 
>>Compliance in Practice <http://www.trivenidigital.com/seminars/>.
>>    - July 1, Cinema Trevi, Roma, SMPTE International Conference 
>><http://www.smpte.org/conferences/>.
>>    - July 5, Miami, Taste of NAB Road Show 
>> <http://www.tech-notes.tv/2005/27-Miami.htm>.
>>    - July 6, West Palm Beach, Taste of NAB Road Show 
>> <http://www.tech-notes.tv/2005/28-West_Palm_Beach.htm>.
>>    - July 11, Atlanta, Taste of NAB Road Show 
>> <http://www.tech-notes.tv/2005/29-Atlanta.htm>.
>>    - July 13, Huntsville, Alabama, Taste of NAB Road Show 
>>    
>>
><http://www.tech-notes.tv/2005/30-Huntsville.htm>.
>  
>
>>    - July 14, Shop at Home Network, Antioch (Nashville), Tennessee, Taste of 
>>NAB Road Show <http://www.tech-notes.tv/2005/31-Nashville.htm>.
>>    - July 18, Knoxville, Tennessee, Taste of NAB Road Show 
>><http://www.tech-notes.tv/2005/32-Knoxville.htm>.
>>    - July 19-21, Sydney Convention Centre, SMPTE 2005 
>> <http://www.smpte.com.au/home.php>.
>>    - July 20, Greenville, South Carolina, Taste of NAB Road Show, 
>><http://www.tech-notes.tv/2005/33-Greenville.htm>.
>>    - July 21, Columbia, South Carolina, Taste of NAB Road Show 
>><http://www.tech-notes.tv/2005/34-Columbia.htm>.
>>    - July 25, Charlotte, North Carolina, Taste of NAB Road Show 
>><http://www.tech-notes.tv/2005/35-Charlotte.htm>.
>>    - July 25-29, JW Marriott Denver at Cherry Creek, CEA Summer Technology 
>>    
>>
>and 
>  
>
>>Standards Forum 
>><http://www.ce.org/events/event_info/default.asp?eventID=STSF05>.
>>    - July 27, Raleigh/Durham, North Carolina, Taste of NAB Road Show 
>><http://www.tech-notes.tv/2005/36-Raleigh.htm>.
>>    - July 29, WDBJ, Roanoke, Virginia, Taste of NAB Road Show 
>><http://www.tech-notes.tv/2005/37-Roanoke.htm>.
>>    - August 1, Charleston, West Virginia, Taste of NAB Road Show 
>><http://www.tech-notes.tv/2005/38-WestVirginia.htm>.
>>    - August 3, Richmond, Virginia, Taste of NAB Road Show 
>>    
>>
><http://www.tech-notes.tv/2005/39-Richmond.htm>.
>  
>
>>    - August 4, central Pennsylvania, Taste of NAB Road Show 
>><http://www.tech-notes.tv/2005/40-Central%20Pennsylvania.htm>.
>>    - August 5, Philadelphia, Taste of NAB Road Show 
>> <http://www.tech-notes.tv/2005/41-Philadelphia.htm>.
>>    - August 10, northeastern Pennsylvania, Taste of NAB Road Show 
>><http://www.tech-notes.tv/2005/42-N.E.PA.htm>.
>>    - August 13, Connecticut Valley, Taste of NAB Road Show 
>><http://www.tech-notes.tv/2005/43-Connecticut%20Valley.htm>.
>>    - August 15, Boston, Taste of NAB Road Show 
>> <http://www.tech-notes.tv/2005/44-Boston.htm>.
>>    - August 17, New Hampshire, Taste of NAB Road Show 
>> <http://www.tech-notes.tv/2005/45-New_Hampshire.htm>.
>>    - August 19, Albany, New York, Taste of NAB Road Show 
>> <http://www.tech-notes.tv/2005/46-Albany.htm>.
>>    - August 22, Binghamton, New York, Taste of NAB Road Show 
>><http://www.tech-notes.tv/2005/47-Binghamton.htm>.
>>    - August 23-24, Beverly Hilton, DisplaySearch HDTV Conference 2005 
>><http://www.displaysearch.com/hdtvconference/>.
>>    - August 24, Syracuse, New York, Taste of NAB Road Show 
>><http://www.tech-notes.tv/2005/48-Syracuse.htm>.
>>    - August 25, Rochester, New York, Taste of NAB Road Show 
>><http://www.tech-notes.tv/2005/49-Rochester.htm>
>>    - August 25-28, China International Exhibition Center, Beijing, BIRTV2005 
>><http://www.birtv.com/english/about.asp>.
>>    - August 29, Buffalo, Taste of NAB Road Show 
>> <http://www.tech-notes.tv/2005/50-Buffalo.htm>.
>>    - August 31, Clear Channel Radio, Youngstown, Ohio, Taste of NAB Road 
>> Show 
>>    
>>
>
>  
>
>><http://www.tech-notes.tv/2005/51-Youngstown.htm>.
>>    - September 6, Pittsburgh, Taste of NAB Road Show 
>> <http://www.tech-notes.tv/2005/52-Pittsburg.htm>.
>>    - September 8, Evansville, Indiana, Taste of NAB Road Show 
>><http://www.tech-notes.tv/2005/53-Evansville.htm>.
>>    - September 8-13, RAI, Amsterdam, IBC 2005 <http://www.ibc.org/>.
>>    - September 12, Indianapolis, Taste of NAB Road Show 
>> <http://www.tech-notes.tv/2005/54-Indy.htm>.
>>    - September 14, Dayton, Ohio, Taste of NAB Road Show 
>> <http://www.tech-notes.tv/2005/55-Dayton.htm>.
>>    - September 16, Detroit, Taste of NAB Road Show 
>> <http://www.tech-notes.tv/2005/56-Detroit.htm>.
>>    - September 19, Lansing, Michigan, Taste of NAB Road Show 
>><http://www.tech-notes.tv/2005/57-Lansing.htm>.
>>    - September 21, WGVU, Grand Rapids, Michigan, Taste of NAB Road Show 
>><http://www.tech-notes.tv/2005/58-Grand%20Rapids.htm>.
>>    - September 23, South Bend, Indiana, Taste of NAB Road Show 
>><http://www.tech-notes.tv/2005/59-South_Bend.htm>.
>>    - September 26, Rockford, Illinois, Taste of NAB Road Show 
>><http://www.tech-notes.tv/2005/60-Rockford.htm>.
>>    - September 28, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, Taste of NAB Road Show 
>><http://www.tech-notes.tv/2005/61-Milwaukee.htm>.
>>    - September 29-October 1, Vicenza Fair, Sat Expo 
>> <http://www.satexpo.it/en/>.
>>    - September 30, Fox Valley (Green Bay), Wisconsin, Taste of NAB Road Show 
>><http://www.tech-notes.tv/2005/62-Fox%20Valley.htm>.
>>    - October 3, western Wisconsin, Taste of NAB Road Show 
>>    
>>
><http://www.tech-notes.tv/2005/63-Western%20Wisconsin.htm>.
>  
>
>>    - October 5, Minneapolis/St. Paul, Taste of NAB Road Show 
>><http://www.tech-notes.tv/2005/64-Minneapolis-St.%20Paul.htm>.
>>    - October 7, Des Moines, Iowa, Taste of NAB Road Show 
>> <http://www.tech-notes.tv/2005/65-Des%20Moines.htm>.
>>    - October 10, Kansas City, Taste of NAB Road Show 
>> <http://www.tech-notes.tv/2005/66-Kansas_City.htm>.
>>    - October 12, Omaha, Nebraska, Taste of NAB Road Show 
>> <http://www.tech-notes.tv/2005/67-Omaha.htm>.
>>    - *October 12-14, Hotel Washington, Washington, D.C., IEEE Broadcast 
>>Symposium <http://www.ieee.org/organizations/society/bt/symp.html>.
>>    - October 14, Riverton, Wyoming, Taste of NAB Road Show 
>><http://www.tech-notes.tv/2005/68-Riverton.htm>.
>>    - October 17, Bozeman, Montana, Taste of NAB Road Show 
>>    
>>
><http://www.tech-notes.tv/2005/69-Bozeman.htm>.
>  
>
>>    - October 19, Spokane, Washington, Taste of NAB Road Show 
>><http://www.tech-notes.tv/2005/70-Spokane.htm>.
>>    - October 20, Pullman, Washington, Taste of NAB Road Show 
>><http://www.tech-notes.tv/2005/71-Pullman.htm>.
>>    - October 24, KLSR/KEVU, Eugene, Oregon, Taste of NAB Road Show 
>><http://www.tech-notes.tv/2005/72-Eugene.htm>.
>>    - October 24-27, Orlando World Center Marriott, ShowEast 
>><http://www.vnufilmgroup.com/filmgroup/showeast/index.jsp>.
>>    - October 25, Oregon Public Broadcasting, Portland, Taste of NAB Road 
>> Show 
>>    
>>
>
>  
>
>><http://www.tech-notes.tv/2005/73-Portland.htm>.
>>    - November 9-12, New York Hilton, SMPTE Technical Conference & Exhibition 
>><http://www.smpte.org/conferences/>.
>>    - November 16-18, Makuhari Messe, InterBEE 2005 
>> <http://bee.jesa.or.jp/en/index.html>.
>>* - new or revised listing
>>    - January 5-8, Las Vegas, Consumer Electronics Show 
>> <http://www.cesweb.org/default_flash.asp>
>>
>>TTFN,
>>Mark
>>
>>PS  Permission is granted to forward this or any other Monday Memo.  Next 
>>    
>>
>week's 
>  
>
>>memo will be late.  I'll be on the road between now & then, so I don't know 
>>    
>>
>what 
>  
>
>>ads I'll be able to include next week (or the week after).
>>
>>Phone numbers of some retailers mentioned (the ones starting +1 will work 
>>from 
>>outside the United States):
>>- Broadway Computers & Electronics: +1-212-567-4300
>>- Center City Computers & Electronics: +1-718-272-6474
>>- Computers & Electronics Warehouse: +1-718-205-2288
>>- J&R: +1-212-238-9000, 800-221-8180
>>- Paul's: +1-714-529-2314
>>- P.C. Richard: +1-212-979-2600
>>- Royal Computers and Electronics: +1-718-646-2100
>>- Soho Electric: +1-212-941-8533, 888-726-9324
>>- Universal Computers & Electronics: +1-718-784-8000
>>- Value Electronics: +1-914-723-3344, 800-789-5050
>>
>>Have a question about the memo?  Before contacting me, please try the FAQs 
>>and 
>>glossary in the second postscript to the January 10 memo:
>><http://www.digitaltelevision.com/mondaymemo/mlist/frm02163.html>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways:
>>
>>- Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at 
>>FreeLists.org 
>>
>>- By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word 
>>unsubscribe in the subject line.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways:
>>
>>- Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at 
>>    
>>
>FreeLists.org 
>  
>
>>- By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word 
>>    
>>
>unsubscribe in the subject line.
>  
>
>>
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
> 
> 
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways:
>
>- Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at 
>FreeLists.org 
>
>- By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word 
>unsubscribe in the subject line.
>
>
> 
> 
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways:
>
>- Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at 
>FreeLists.org 
>
>- By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word 
>unsubscribe in the subject line.
>
>
>
>  
>
 
 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways:

- Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at 
FreeLists.org 

- By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word 
unsubscribe in the subject line.

Other related posts: