I can also atest to obnoxiousness of 3:2 pull-down. Upon returning to North America after many years abroad, I found the 3:2 pulldown very obvious and annoying. However after six-months, I no longer noticed it! A reverse incident: my parents returned to the UK after many years in North America. Upon arriving in the UK in the early eighties, they bought a 27" Sony (large then by UK standards) set. I recall my mother wanting to return it because of the flicker. After a few months, the annoyance went away and she has been content since! (My parents now have a huge 16X9 CRT display). The last anecdote: Years ago, I worked with an engineer in the BBC nearing retirement, who had spent most of his career working on 405 systems. Out of curiosity, I tested his hearing and found he could not hear 10,125 Hz (the 405 horizontal scan frequency). He could hear above 10,125 and below 10,125 but not 10,125! Regards, Terry Harvey > > From: "Alan Roberts" <roberts.mugswell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: 2004/09/01 Wed AM 05:45:35 EDT > To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [opendtv] Re: 20040830 Mark's Monday Memo > > The 3:2 pull-down that 60Hz demands for showing film looks truly appalling > to the vast majority of Europeans. It's really horrid. NTSC dvds sold here > are rapidly junked in favour of proper ones, not only sharper but much more > regular smooth motion. From time to time, a purchase deal for a US film-made > programme goes wrong and we get a standards-conversion of the 59.94Hz video > instead of a proper rescan of the film. Phone lines get hot with the public > complaints. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barry Wilkins" <Barry.Wilkins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 5:59 AM > Subject: [opendtv] Re: 20040830 Mark's Monday Memo > > > > I have the same "problem" looking out my lounge window every days end. > > The new plasma display sits in the corner beckoning me to watch. But my > > eyes are drawn across the bay to the distant snow covered mountains and > > the setting sun. > > > > Now that I've been "educated" on this issue of flicker, I note with a > > bit of research that Europeans apparently can suffer a similar annoyance > > problem with film judder due to 3:2 pull down that, according to the > > document I'm reading, does not affect Americans as they have "grown used > > to it from childhood" > > > > Barry Wilkins=20 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mark Schubin [mailto:tvmark@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20 > > Sent: Wednesday, 1 September 2004 2:51 p.m. > > To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [opendtv] Re: 20040830 Mark's Monday Memo > > > > > > > Whilst in NZ Mark, did you see any of the dreaded 50Hz flicker > > syndrome? > > > > Barry Wilkins =3D20 > > > > Alas, yes. We were shooting in Wellington and also noticed it in hotels > > in Fox Glacier, Haast, Dunedin, and Christchurch. > > > > But it was hard to think about watching TV in such a wonderful place. > > > > TTFN, > > Mark > > =20 > > =20 > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: > > > > - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at > > FreeLists.org=20 > > > > - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word > > unsubscribe in the subject line. > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: > > > > - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at > FreeLists.org > > > > - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word > unsubscribe in the subject line. > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: > > - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at > FreeLists.org > > - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word > unsubscribe in the subject line. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.