[oaktable] Re: Freelists Test

  • From: Christian Antognini <Christian.Antognini@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "oaktable@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <oaktable@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2020 17:19:22 +0000

Alex

FWIW in my case I have nothing to do. I.e. no installation/upgrade/backup/… The 
hosting provider takes care of everything.

What I have to do is to press the create button, add the list of emails, and 
just configure who is able to see/post on the list and stuff like that.

Cheers,
Chris

From: oaktable-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <oaktable-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf 
Of Alex Gorbachev
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 6:12 PM
To: oaktable@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [oaktable] Re: Freelists Test

I guess there was a desire to get out of a mode of running and managing our own 
infra and avoid spending time installing, upgrading, securing, monitoring, and 
etc.


On Thu, 5 Nov 2020 at 14:08 Dan Norris 
<dannorris@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:dannorris@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Chris and I both have mentioned ability to run private mailing lists. For me 
(and I suspect for Chris), the cost to Oaktable would be $0.
As for reliable...well, I suspect that it would be as reliable as email is, but 
no SLA offered or implied on my end :)

On Thu, Nov 5, 2020 at 11:01 AM Alex Gorbachev 
<ag@xxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:ag@xxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Does someone know of a reliable private mailing list as a service with 
reasonable monthly or annual fees that are not per user? We could just prepay 
42 years of that thing and be done.

Very quick googling shows some charging few $ per user/month which seems 
disproportionate to the underlying cost of running such thing on something like 
AWS Lightsail.

On Wed, 4 Nov 2020 at 13:12 Kurt Van Meerbeeck 
<Kurt.Van.Meerbeeck@xxxxxx<mailto:Kurt.Van.Meerbeeck@xxxxxx>> wrote:
Yes – a simple mailforward won’t do that … just thinking here because a public 
history is not something I’m thrilled about…

cheers
K

From: oaktable-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:oaktable-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
<oaktable-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:oaktable-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> On Behalf 
Of James Morle
Sent: woensdag 4 november 2020 17:08
To: oaktable@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:oaktable@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [oaktable] Re: Freelists Test

The important aspects of this change are as follows:
- more community control - the current GMail approach requires one of the few 
with admin access to manually go in and add/remove/update email addresses. We 
need more self-service.
- it needs to work for the ~50% of the group that don't want to use FB, which 
would solve all this easily if that were acceptable to folks ;)
- I think there *is* a desire to be able to access historical threads, just not 
by the general public!

I would doubt that a simple mail forward would give us what we need, but I 
defer to the group for discussion.
Cheers

James

On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 9:53 AM Kurt Van Meerbeeck 
<Kurt.Van.Meerbeeck@xxxxxx<mailto:Kurt.Van.Meerbeeck@xxxxxx>> wrote:
James – just an idea … I’m using 
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list42@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:list42@xxxxxxxxxx> -> all mail addresses)
Not sure about the limitations of this 😉

From: oaktable-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:oaktable-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
<oaktable-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:oaktable-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> On Behalf 
Of James Morle
Sent: woensdag 4 november 2020 16:38
To: oaktable@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:oaktable@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [oaktable] Re: Freelists Test

This is, indeed, the significant downside of this approach. If anyone knows if 
there is a way to lockdown the messages then please let me know.
The Facebook Group wouldn't have had that problem... just sayin'!

James

On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 6:39 AM Kurt Van Meerbeeck 
<Kurt.Van.Meerbeeck@xxxxxx<mailto:Kurt.Van.Meerbeeck@xxxxxx>> wrote:
so our mailings are public ?


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From: oaktable-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:oaktable-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
<oaktable-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:oaktable-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> On Behalf 
Of Jonathan Lewis
Sent: woensdag 4 november 2020 13:34
To: oaktable@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:oaktable@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [oaktable] Re: Freelists Test

For those not familiar with freelists (? anyone ?) there is an automatic 
archive by month of all messages: 
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Regards
Jonathan Lewis


On Wed, 4 Nov 2020 at 12:29, Arup Nanda 
<arup1111@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:arup1111@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Message received. Thanks for setting it up, James.

On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 5:02 PM James Morle 
<james@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:james@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Uh, hello? Is this thing on?

--

Thanks and regards.

Arup Nanda

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