[oaktable] Re: [EXT] Re: End of an Era

  • From: Tim Gorman <tim.evdbt@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: oaktable@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, Michael Möller <private2michael@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2021 10:16:11 -0700

list42@xxxxxxxxxxxx does not exist any longer, it was too expensive in terms of money and effort.

oaktable@xxxxxxxxxxxxx is free, but part of the service is this archive website which is publicly available to all as a condition of the service.

The lesson is:  when it's free, you're not a customer, you're the product.

We're customers at oaktable@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.




On 4/25/2021 4:50 AM, Michael Möller wrote:

As I recall, oaktable.net <http://oaktable.net> webhotel was being put down due to expense and admin duties (but the name parked to avoid misappropiation or redirected to freelist)

freelist currently does the mailwork, but is not "private" enough, due to public archives.

Simplelist seemed affordable and "private".

I'm easy either way, but not happy about slack or other chatservices.

Michael, fra mobilen

søn. 25. apr. 2021 12.56 skrev Lothar Flatz <l.flatz@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:l.flatz@xxxxxxxxxx>>:

    Thanks God you mention that. I thought I am the only one who does
    not get it.
    What is wrong with freelists?
    Is a switch to simlelists decided yet? I thought it was just an
    idea? Was there any decision yet?

    completely confused

    Lothar
    Am 25.04.2021 um 12:25 schrieb Bjørn Engsig (Redacted sender bjorn
    for DMARC):
    Am I the only one slightly confused now? Don't we now have three
    lists:

    list42@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:list42@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
    oaktable@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:oaktable@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
    oaktable@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:oaktable@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

    So after another 39 mailing lists, we really should be good or what?

    /Bjørn.

    On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 at 19:23, Tim Gorman <tim.evdbt@xxxxxxxxx
    <mailto:tim.evdbt@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

        I've signed up most of the junta as approvers, as well as me
        for now until someone else takes over in a month.

        Click on the subscription link (HERE
        <https://archives.simplelists.com/subscribe/oaktable>) and
        find out :)



        On 4/23/2021 10:17 AM, Mark W. Farnham wrote:

        how does the approval work?

        *From:*oaktable-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        <mailto:oaktable-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
        [mailto:oaktable-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        <mailto:oaktable-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] *On Behalf Of
        *Tuomas Pystynen
        *Sent:* Friday, April 23, 2021 12:07 PM
        *To:* oaktable@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:oaktable@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
        *Cc:* James Morle
        *Subject:* [oaktable] Re: [EXT] Re: End of an Era

        Subscribed, had to see the intro message!



        On 23. Apr 2021, at 18.38, Tim Gorman <tim.evdbt@xxxxxxxxx
        <mailto:tim.evdbt@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

        After the 30 day free trial, we can figure out whether (and
        how) to pay?  I'm not sure, but I'm betting they take PayPal
        along with credit cards?

        The level we're signed up for is $100/year, not $64/year
        because (of course) the lower amount was essentially the
        PowerPoint demo.


        On 4/23/2021 5:12 AM, James Morle wrote:

            I’m in, love the intro message :)

            On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 7:28 PM Tim Gorman
            <tim.evdbt@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:tim.evdbt@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

                We get a free month, so let's try it out.

                HERE
                <https://archives.simplelists.com/subscribe/oaktable>is
                a subscription page;  all who are interested in
                trying it out, please sign yourself up?

                Hopefully, in four weeks or less we can decide to
                stick with this service or find a new one?




                On 4/20/2021 5:20 PM, James Morle wrote:

                    All,

                    We still have some cash in the Oaktable PayPal,
                    more than enough for several years of this email
                    service. Tim, if you are willing to set it up,
                    we can fund the first year and see how it goes?

                    Cheers

                    James

                    On Sun, Apr 18, 2021 at 9:27 AM Christian
                    Antognini <Christian.Antognini@xxxxxxxxxxxx
                    <mailto:Christian.Antognini@xxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

                        Hi

                        Despite the fact that I could use Slack (or
                        something else), from my point of view an
                        email-based list would be best. Hence, if we
                        take that direction, I would be happy to buy
                        the third year.

                        Cheers,

                        Chris

                        *From:*oaktable-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                        <mailto:oaktable-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
                        <oaktable-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                        <mailto:oaktable-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> *On
                        Behalf Of *Alex Gorbachev


                        *Sent:* Sunday, April 18, 2021 4:13 AM
                        *To:* oaktable@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                        <mailto:oaktable@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
                        *Subject:* [oaktable] Re: Aw: Re: [EXT] Re:
                        End of an Era

                        I’ll buy the second year.

                        As the world evolves towards the modern
                        communication mediums, we must resist and
                        stay true to the roots. Otherwise, what kind
                        of Oaktable is it?

                        Alex

                        On Fri, 16 Apr 2021 at 15:04 Tim Gorman
                        <tim.evdbt@xxxxxxxxx
                        <mailto:tim.evdbt@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

                            Just throwing this out there...

                            A paid service called SimpleLists
                            
<https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.simplelists.com%2Fproducts.php&data=04%7C01%7Cchristian.antognini%40trivadis.com%7Cb67b76134dc745974deb08d9020f8add%7Cfe8f2b6f52c6436db363ddd6dafc103a%7C0%7C1%7C637543088044932328%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=gvBzERtpcEeNBpbTdxCsd0sK9AEEzrLIDaCdIAz2KnE%3D&reserved=0>
                            is available for $64/year. I'll buy the
                            first year (first month is free). This
                            will kick the can down the road until 13
                            months from now when we can either
                            decide to renew with the email list or
                            go to Slack or Discord or whatever new
                            communication technology is sweeping the
                            ether?

                            Let me know?




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