[nvda-addons] Re: Clip content designer: preliminary release date and reviews
- From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <nvda-addons@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2014 10:43:54 -0800
Hi,
As for script categories, I'm of the opinion that app modules should be
given their own categories with global plugins using existing categories
unless there is a reason not to. In this case, I agree with Noelia that
current script category is fine.
Cheers,
Joseph
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Subject: [nvda-addons] Re: Clip content designer: preliminary release date
and reviews
Hi.
About categories, I'd like to get more opinions. Sometimes, if each add-on
has its own, the dialog for input gestures could be too long.
Another solution could be mention the add-on category in the readme file.
About copying and cutting, really the add-on follows this steps, in short:
1. Gets the clipboard text.
2. Joins the text to append.
3. Copy the whole text to the clipboard.
We could add a function to delete different segments from the clipboard,
regardless on if you have pasted them or not.
I would like to know use cases, and I think that, for this first version
(uploaded to the website and perhaps unloaded for people who is not
following this thread), we can change the keystrokes and fix the bug
reported by Alberto.
For the next major release (2.0), if you want can add a combo box to decide
what strings should be copied (or removed), and the possibility of saving
different separators.
Thanks.
El 13/12/2014 17:03, Bhavya shah escribió:
> Hi,
> Ok, agreed about the name being kept as it is.
> Also, I've become very forgetful, because someone did remind me that I
> could change the Append Text keystrokes before, through the Input
> Gestures dialog. Anyways, I've done it now, but a suggestion, could
> you create a separate category in in the Input Gestures dialog for the
> Clip Content Designer add-on?
> I agree with you that for consistency it should be changed to NVDA +
> Windows + F9 'You can delete all the text contained in the clipboard
> win
> control+shift+NVDA+x. You can do it after pasting text (like cutting)
> or if you make a mistake when appending text: then your clipboards
> will be empty and you can append the strings.'
> I'm not sure I follow you, or it is possible that you didn't follow me.
> Let me be clearer:
> Currently, when a user appends text, by NVDA Ctrl Shift C, the
> original text is unchanged/unharmed, because while appending the text,
> only the text is being copied and not cut.
> However, I would also like the ability to both copy and cut text to
> append, for example, there are two strings of text I want to join, and
> paste into another document, let them be string 1 and string 2.
> However, I want to copy string 1 but cut string 2, and then paste
> their joint form.
> This currently isn't possible.
> Was I a bit clearer?
> About the settings dialog, ok, agree with you.
>
> On 12/13/14, Noelia <nrm1977@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Sorry, two things:
>> The most important, I made a mistake in my previous answer about your
>> name, Bhavya.
>> Also, a precission: I think clipContentsDessigner is appropiate
>> currently, since when removing the clipboardContent, not just the
>> text is deleted. The clipboard gets empty; so, if a file has been
>> copied to paste in a folder, it's deleted too.
>> Thanks.
>>
>> El 13/12/2014 14:54, Bhavya shah escribió:
>>> Hi,
>>> Oh, I didn't know that.
>>> At the end of the day, the add-on name, won't matter much. It still
>>> seems a bit unintuitive to me (as compared to the other
>>> usggestions), but thats just my own opinion.
>>> It certainly is a very useful addon, and I wish I could use it :)
>>>
>>> On 12/13/14, Him Prasad Gautam <drishtibachak@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> hi,
>>>> The name as 'clipContentDesigner' is my suggestion.
>>>> I think it is appropriate.
>>>> This is a very useful addon.
>>>> Thanks to the developer.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 12/13/14, Bhavya shah <bhavya.shah125@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> I would like to suggest a few things:
>>>>> add-on name - Currently, this add-on is named as Clip Contents
>>>>> Designer. This present name seems a bit intuitive to me, perhaps
>>>>> it may be changed to NV Clipboard, or Cliptext Manager (as if I
>>>>> remember right, Dinakar D.C. suggested)?
>>>>> keyboard commands - I propose changing the keyboard to append
>>>>> selected text to NVDA + Windows + C, because in my view that is
>>>>> more intuitive, one keystroke less, and will work on keyboards
>>>>> that do not handle four keys combinations.
>>>>> cut and append text feature - Currently, if I'm not wrong, by
>>>>> appending, this add-on can only copy and append the text to the
>>>>> clipboard. It would be useful for a feature to cut and append text
>>>>> to the clipboard. If this feature request is accepted, then the
>>>>> keystroke to do so could be NVDA + Windows + X.
>>>>> Mark the current position of the review cursor as the start of the
>>>>> text to be added to the clipboard may be changed to:
>>>>> Mark the current position of the review cursor as the start of the
>>>>> text to be appended I replaced 'added' with 'appended', and
>>>>> removed 'to the clipboard' to be consisten with the Input Help
>>>>> message for the NVDA + F9 command.
>>>>> Though this add-on sounds truly useful to me, it won't benefit me
>>>>> because my laptop keyboard sadly doesn't support four keys
>>>>> combinations.
>>>>> All the same, congratulations for creating this...
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/13/14, Noelia <nrm1977@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>> In the readme it's writen possition, with double s.
>>>>>> I have writen, according to your suggestion and the grammar used
>>>>>> in other commands:
>>>>>> "- NVDA+control+f9: Mark the current position of the review
>>>>>> cursor as the start of the text to be added to the clipboard. If
>>>>>> you use
>>>>>> nvda+F9,
>>>>>> the text couldn't be appended"
>>>>>> That is, using mark instead of marks, and couldn't (conditional)
>>>>>> instead of can not (present).
>>>>>> English reviewers can say something or if it's wrong.
>>>>>> docHandler is not needed.
>>>>>> I think the add-on can wait until 27th december. We don't want I
>>>>>> can be accused on not to follow the process and post my add-ons
>>>>>> in a community website :) I will commit changes now, and will
>>>>>> wait for English speakers before updating the website.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> El 13/12/2014 12:16, ChrisLeo escribió:
>>>>>>> Hi, I use this add-on version since the branch master of
>>>>>>> appendtext has been created in bitbucket, and I have not found
>>>>>>> problems or bugs...
>>>>>>> In my modest opinion could be released before.
>>>>>>> Two very little things:
>>>>>>> * We still need the file docHandler.py?
>>>>>>> * in the readme.md:
>>>>>>> "NVDA+control+f9: Use the possition of the review cursor as the
>>>>>>> selection start marker."
>>>>>>> Could be more explicative:
>>>>>>> "marks the current position of the review cursor as the start of
>>>>>>> text to be add to clipboard. If you use nvda+F9, the text can
>>>>>>> not be appended to the clipboard."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I like so much this add-on, thanks!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chris.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Joseph Lee, 12/12/2014 23:06 wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Her's my review of clip content designer:
>>>>>>>> * Opening and reading clipboard content: if the clipboard can
>>>>>>>> be treated as a file, wouldn't it be possible to convert
>>>>>>>> try/except/finally block to a context manager (with statement)?
>>>>>>>> The benefits of with statement is that it'll automatically
>>>>>>>> close the clipboard.
>>>>>>>> * Settings dialog: Is it okay if the title is changed to "Clip
>>>>>>>> Content Designer settings" to match that of the menu item
>>>>>>>> label?
>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>> As for release date, I'll leave it up to the author to decide,
>>>>>>>> but if not, I propose December 19th, as the add-on was
>>>>>>>> considered stable for a very long time.
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>> --
>>>>> Warm Regards
>>>>> Bhavya
>>>>>
>>>>> Reach me through the following means:
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>>>>> Telephone: +022 23076950
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