With a para mount your bino's sit where ever you want them too. A few years ago I had a pair of 30x60's and the strain of trying to hold them steady gave me a crook neck. Glen's banana chair idea is better than trying to free hold bino's the size of something like 20x80's steady-ish but I still can't avoid image shake like I can with a para mount. AB's on home tuff, and with a Wallabies coach on home turf oh won't the crowd be dirty lol. AB's by 30 ;^) Cheers,CS Rob Here's a couple of photos of my para mount with dew straps attached. I find the heat off my eyeballs fog up the ep's and the front end attracts dew like a finder scope does. You can sit on a chair or stand whatever you feel like. I use to use it laying on a trampoline. From: nswnra-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:nswnra-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul McGuiness Sent: Friday, 6 August 2010 15:09 To: nswnra@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [nswnra] Re: Clear Skies 04/08/2010 Thanks Rob, a couple of pics would be good. The 20x80's are great but I find holding them for any length of time a real pain, so i don't use them as much I should. Glen's banana lounge idea is OK, but limits you to what patch of sky you can see. Hmmm, clear skies vs rugby. Decisions decisions. Those beer goggles might be needed. You may need them to drown your sorrows when the AB's are flogged. Cheers and good luck for saturday night!! Paul On 06/08/2010, at 1:13 PM, Corona Australis wrote: Hi Paul, I'll throw some photos up later, it's a mount I use for my 20x80's it works really well and saves having try hold them steady as you go. I don't know, it will have to have some premium ply in there I like wood but certainly cut down from the typical obsession style dob. Something that folds up into a large suitcase size that I can throw in the car without having to almost fully dismantle it. When I take the 16" out to Leyburn in September I'll have to put the mirror back in the freight box it came in and split the mirror box from the rocker box plus poles and Secondary cage which I made a padded soft case, will all fit in the car pretty well. Rugby starts at 5:30pm Sat nite : ) might be observing with a grin on my chin.. but probably through some beer goggles lol. Cheers,CS Rob From: nswnra-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:nswnra-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul McGuiness Sent: Friday, 6 August 2010 08:25 To: nswnra@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [nswnra] Re: Clear Skies 04/08/2010 Hi Rob, Good to hear the car is a goer. Pardon my appalling ignorance, but, what sort of design is a "parallelogram mount". I don't think I have come across one, do you have any pics? There are lots of designs for lightweight scopes, the problem is building enough strength without excess weight. It makes me wish I had some welding skills, just imagine what you could build with a TIG outfit and basic alloy sections. Beats timber and ply for weight and strength. Will keep a lookout if there is a viewing session Saturday or Sunday night. Cheers, Paul. On 06/08/2010, at 6:11 AM, Corona Australis wrote: Hi Paul, Got the car back last Monday, all seems to be working ok so far. Good to have it back and be able to get around the place, especially when you live out in the boonies Rang Isaac about my mirror it still hasn't been coated yet. Apparently he is waiting on having a jig made up for his machine so not sure when I'll get it back, was hoping to have it by now or at least before new moon. The 8" is a great little scope with no Argo so it's back to star hoping. Still remember enough no to need any charts but it's a bit rough on the old neck though, part of the reason for getting an Argo in the first place. The only annoying thing is everybody is using the fire places of a night. It has me thinking of building a collapsible 12" grab and go scope. Finished modifying my parallelogram mount, so now I can send power up through it while it can freely rotate. Will give it a whirl over the weekend Seems I'd had a dew strap go missing through Aussie post so waiting on a replacement, expecting it to arrive today. Anyways hopefully it will be nice over the weekend, looking forward to another session or two Cheers,CS Rob From: nswnra-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:nswnra-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul McGuiness Sent: Thursday, 5 August 2010 21:00 To: nswnra@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [nswnra] Re: Clear Skies 04/08/2010 Hi Rob, Sounds like a good session. We saw most of the list at Glen's also. You are lucky to have a good size reserve scope while the 16" is away. Hope the 16" (and your car) is back together soon. The weather doesn't sound too bad for the weekend. Maybe Saturday night will be OK. 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