……So, it finally began to work after repeated tries. Can't really figure out why, but it does happen sometimes. Koichi Yasutani - a.k.a. Steve + MP Lakewood, WA U.S.A. 2010 / 11 / 21 19:51 PST On Nov 21, 2010, at 0801 , Dave wrote: > They kept trying the N-boot and finally it connected to their network. They > didn't know why it failed at first, but they suspected some loose network > ports at their work table. They took the laptop in the back room and got it > booted. > > From: Koichi Mac <nikonf3tmd4@xxxxxxx> > To: nikonf4@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Sun, November 21, 2010 2:55:00 AM > Subject: [nikonf4] Re: Mac Trouble > > Really…your MB thought there was no HD? How did they start your MB then? > You said network option wasn't available either. > > On Nov 20, 2010, at 1931 , Dave wrote: > > > No, but they did at the Apple Store. It didn't work. Neither did holding > > the N key to boot from their network. > > > > From: Koichi Mac <nikonf3tmd4@xxxxxxx> > > To: Nikon F4 <nikonf4@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Sat, November 20, 2010 9:50:43 PM > > Subject: [nikonf4] Re: Mac Trouble > > > > Well I see your problem is solved now which is good to know. > > > > But, did you hold <option> during FW boot? That will show you the > > choice of drive you want to boot. Corrupt boot sector of internal drive > > shouldn't deactivate this capability. > > > > On Nov 20, 2010, at 0517 , Dave wrote: > > > > > Thanks, Koichi. I did the updates too and it worked fine afterwards. I > > > can't boot, so I can't get to any of those remedies. I can't restore > > > either, because it won't boot to the system disk either. > > > > > > From: Koichi Mac <nikonf3tmd4@xxxxxxx> > > > To: nikonf4@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Sent: Sat, November 20, 2010 6:28:42 AM > > > Subject: [nikonf4] Re: Mac Trouble > > > > > > I did the Mac OS, Safari and iTunes updates early this week. The Mac > > > OS update was pretty big one, something like 678 MB. It took a few > > > minutes even for my MacPro to reboot after the update, but I haven't had > > > any problem. > > > > > > Is your FW HD backup the clone of your internal drive? Assuming it is > > > so, and if it doesn't boot up from that either, maybe you have either > > > problem with your logic board or memory, or however remote, a corrupt > > > updated files on your HD. If you don't hear HD clicking repeatedly, your > > > HD is probably OK. And if you can manage to boot up, <About This Mac> > > > <More Info> <Hardware> <Diagnostics> will show the state at the time of > > > boot up. > > > > > > On Nov 19, 2010, at 2059 , Dave wrote: > > > > > > > I made an appointment for 3PM tomorrow; there was nothing open for > > > > morning. > > > > Minor progress: I got the system disk to eject.I have my original HD > > > > that I could install, but somehow it doesn't seem like a HD crash. God, > > > > this PC is slow and fidgety. > > > > > > > > From: Jay Paxton <JayPax@xxxxxxxx> > > > > To: nikonf4@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Sent: Fri, November 19, 2010 11:39:20 PM > > > > Subject: [nikonf4] Re: Mac Trouble > > > > > > > > I know the last thing you want to go is go to the Apple Store and fight > > > > a crowd of teeny-boppers to the Genius Bar, but that is your best bet > > > > to getting it fixed quickly. Go online and make the appointment at the > > > > Genius Bar tonight and it won't be so bad. > > > > > > > > From: Dave > > > > Sent: Fri 11/19/2010 10:25 PM > > > > To: nikonf4@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Subject: [nikonf4] Mac Trouble > > > > > > > > I was using my Macbook 13" laptop tonight when suddenly it froze in > > > > Safari and the Force Quit didn't work. Neither did anything else. I > > > > held the power button down, and it shut off. > > > > > > > > Now when I try to turn it on, it starts to boot, chimes, and the little > > > > thermometer comes up. It's the one that shows when you have a long > > > > startup sequence to go through. Then the whole thing powers off instead > > > > of booting. If I hold down the power button until the long tone sounds, > > > > the same thing happens. I inserted my OS disk hoping to do a restore, > > > > and it just ate that; it won't eject no matter what, and there's no > > > > paper clip hole. > > > > > > > > Power on, progress thermometer moves to about 5% then restarts a couple > > > > of times, then it powers off. I powered up and connected my firewire > > > > backup HD but it's no help. > > > > > > > > This Macbook has been flawless since 12/06, and I just installed the > > > > latest big OS and Safari updates last night. It worked perfectly all > > > > day, however. > > > > > > > > Any ideas, gang? > > > > > > > > Don't make me go to the Apple Store on Saturday!