Really…your MB thought there was no HD? How did they start your MB then? You said network option wasn't available either. Koichi Yasutani - a.k.a. Steve + MP Lakewood, WA U.S.A. 2010 / 11 / 20 23:55 PST On Nov 20, 2010, at 1931 , Dave wrote: > No, but they did at the Apple Store. It didn't work. Neither did holding the > N key to boot from their network. > > From: Koichi Mac <nikonf3tmd4@xxxxxxx> > To: Nikon F4 <nikonf4@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Sat, November 20, 2010 9:50:43 PM > Subject: [nikonf4] Re: Mac Trouble > > Well I see your problem is solved now which is good to know. > > But, did you hold <option> during FW boot? That will show you the choice > of drive you want to boot. Corrupt boot sector of internal drive shouldn't > deactivate this capability. > > On Nov 20, 2010, at 0517 , Dave wrote: > > > Thanks, Koichi. I did the updates too and it worked fine afterwards. I > > can't boot, so I can't get to any of those remedies. I can't restore > > either, because it won't boot to the system disk either. > > > > From: Koichi Mac <nikonf3tmd4@xxxxxxx> > > To: nikonf4@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Sent: Sat, November 20, 2010 6:28:42 AM > > Subject: [nikonf4] Re: Mac Trouble > > > > I did the Mac OS, Safari and iTunes updates early this week. The Mac OS > > update was pretty big one, something like 678 MB. It took a few minutes > > even for my MacPro to reboot after the update, but I haven't had any > > problem. > > > > Is your FW HD backup the clone of your internal drive? Assuming it is > > so, and if it doesn't boot up from that either, maybe you have either > > problem with your logic board or memory, or however remote, a corrupt > > updated files on your HD. If you don't hear HD clicking repeatedly, your > > HD is probably OK. And if you can manage to boot up, <About This Mac> > > <More Info> <Hardware> <Diagnostics> will show the state at the time of > > boot up. > > > > On Nov 19, 2010, at 2059 , Dave wrote: > > > > > I made an appointment for 3PM tomorrow; there was nothing open for > > > morning. > > > Minor progress: I got the system disk to eject.I have my original HD that > > > I could install, but somehow it doesn't seem like a HD crash. God, this > > > PC is slow and fidgety. > > > > > > From: Jay Paxton <JayPax@xxxxxxxx> > > > To: nikonf4@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Sent: Fri, November 19, 2010 11:39:20 PM > > > Subject: [nikonf4] Re: Mac Trouble > > > > > > I know the last thing you want to go is go to the Apple Store and fight a > > > crowd of teeny-boppers to the Genius Bar, but that is your best bet to > > > getting it fixed quickly. Go online and make the appointment at the > > > Genius Bar tonight and it won't be so bad. > > > > > > From: Dave > > > Sent: Fri 11/19/2010 10:25 PM > > > To: nikonf4@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Subject: [nikonf4] Mac Trouble > > > > > > I was using my Macbook 13" laptop tonight when suddenly it froze in > > > Safari and the Force Quit didn't work. Neither did anything else. I held > > > the power button down, and it shut off. > > > > > > Now when I try to turn it on, it starts to boot, chimes, and the little > > > thermometer comes up. It's the one that shows when you have a long > > > startup sequence to go through. Then the whole thing powers off instead > > > of booting. If I hold down the power button until the long tone sounds, > > > the same thing happens. I inserted my OS disk hoping to do a restore, and > > > it just ate that; it won't eject no matter what, and there's no paper > > > clip hole. > > > > > > Power on, progress thermometer moves to about 5% then restarts a couple > > > of times, then it powers off. I powered up and connected my firewire > > > backup HD but it's no help. > > > > > > This Macbook has been flawless since 12/06, and I just installed the > > > latest big OS and Safari updates last night. It worked perfectly all day, > > > however. > > > > > > Any ideas, gang? > > > > > > Don't make me go to the Apple Store on Saturday!