It IS a happy place. I like watching the little kids sitting at the low tables, enthralled with the kiddie apps. ________________________________ From: Eric Welch <ericwelch@xxxxxx> To: "nikonf4@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <nikonf4@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sat, November 20, 2010 4:29:52 PM Subject: [nikonf4] Re: Mac Trouble Temple, not a mere store. :-) Eric For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong. - H. L. Mencken On Nov 20, 2010, at 1:28 PM, Bill O'Connell <woc2@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Did you go to the cult store and get it fixed? > >From:nikonf4-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:nikonf4-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >Behalf Of Dave >Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 8:18 AM >To: nikonf4@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: [nikonf4] Re: Mac Trouble > >Thanks, Koichi. I did the updates too and it worked fine afterwards. I can't >boot, so I can't get to any of those remedies. I can't restore either, because >it won't boot to the system disk either. > > > ________________________________ >From:Koichi Mac <nikonf3tmd4@xxxxxxx> >To: nikonf4@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Sent: Sat, November 20, 2010 6:28:42 AM >Subject: [nikonf4] Re: Mac Trouble > > > I did the Mac OS, Safari and iTunes updates early this week. The Mac OS >update was pretty big one, something like 678 MB. It took a few minutes even >for my MacPro to reboot after the update, but I haven't had any problem. > > > Is your FW HD backup the clone of your internal drive? Assuming it is so, >and if it doesn't boot up from that either, maybe you have either problem with >your logic board or memory, or however remote, a corrupt updated files on your >HD. If you don't hear HD clicking repeatedly, your HD is probably OK. And if >you can manage to boot up, <About This Mac> <More Info> <Hardware> ><Diagnostics> >will show the state at the time of boot up. > > > > >Koichi Yasutani - a.k.a. Steve + MP >Lakewood, WA U.S.A. >2010 / 11 / 20 03:29 PST > >On Nov 19, 2010, at 2059 , Dave wrote: > >> I made an appointment for 3PM tomorrow; there was nothing open for morning. >> Minor progress: I got the system disk to eject.I have my original HD that I >>could install, but somehow it doesn't seem like a HD crash. God, this PC is >>slow >>and fidgety. >> >> From: Jay Paxton <JayPax@xxxxxxxx> >> To: nikonf4@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Sent: Fri, November 19, 2010 11:39:20 PM >> Subject: [nikonf4] Re: Mac Trouble >> >> I know the last thing you want to go is go to the Apple Store and fight a >> crowd >>of teeny-boppers to the Genius Bar, but that is your best bet to getting it >>fixed quickly. Go online and make the appointment at the Genius Bar tonight >>and >>it won't be so bad. >> >> From: Dave >> Sent: Fri 11/19/2010 10:25 PM >> To: nikonf4@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [nikonf4] Mac Trouble >> >> I was using my Macbook 13" laptop tonight when suddenly it froze in Safari >> and >>the Force Quit didn't work. Neither did anything else. I held the power >>button >>down, and it shut off. >> >> >> Now when I try to turn it on, it starts to boot, chimes, and the little >>thermometer comes up. It's the one that shows when you have a long startup >>sequence to go through. Then the whole thing powers off instead of booting. >>If I >>hold down the power button until the long tone sounds, the same thing >>happens. I >>inserted my OS disk hoping to do a restore, and it just ate that; it won't >>eject >>no matter what, and there's no paper clip hole. >> >> >> Power on, progress thermometer moves to about 5% then restarts a couple of >>times, then it powers off. I powered up and connected my firewire backup HD >>but >>it's no help. >> >> This Macbook has been flawless since 12/06, and I just installed the latest >> big >>OS and Safari updates last night. It worked perfectly all day, however. >> >> Any ideas, gang? >> >> Don't make me go to the Apple Store on Saturday!