[ncsc-moths] Re: Problems with Prominents

  • From: kjchilds <kjchilds@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "ncsc-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <ncsc-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 05:40:59 -0700 (PDT)

I sent the pics to J.D. Roberts and here's his take.

"That's definitely not biundata - it's guttivitta. The two species have 
slightly different in appearance AM/PM lines, there are numerous guttivitta 
with visible lines.

Two easy ways to tell these two apart, are 1) biundata generally has larger 
black chevrons making up its subterminal line, whereas guttivitta only has a 
narrow, smaller set of connecting dashes making up its ST line (when it's even 
visible). And 2) biundata always has a brownish-orange patch in its thoracic 
scaling (posterior), whereas guttivitta does not.

FYI, there's a few misidentified moths on the MPG biundata page."

 
Ken Childs
Henderson, TN
Chester County

http://tinyurl.com/FinishFlagFarmsMoths
http://www.finishflagfarms.com  ;



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 From: kjchilds <kjchilds@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "ncsc-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <ncsc-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 8:26 PM
Subject: [ncsc-moths] Re: Problems with Prominents
 

There's one confirmed by DNA on MPG that does show distinct lines so I don't 
think seeing faint lines can confirm the ID as biundata. I'm not saying it 
isn't biundata but I can't see anything on this moth that will convince me 100% 
of either species. 
 
Ken Childs
Henderson, TN
Chester County

http://tinyurl.com/FinishFlagFarmsMoths
http://www.finishflagfarms.com  ;



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 From: J. Merrill Lynch <jmerrilllynch@xxxxxxxxx>
To: ncsc-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 7:48 PM
Subject: [ncsc-moths] Re: Problems with Prominents
 

I can make out wavy brownish am and pm lines which guttivata doesn't show.
On May 25, 2012 8:45 PM, "kjchilds" <kjchilds@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Merrill, what is it about this moth that tells you it's biundata?
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>Ken Childs
>Henderson, TN
>Chester County
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>http://tinyurl.com/FinishFlagFarmsMoths
>http://www.finishflagfarms.com  ;
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> From: J. Merrill Lynch <jmerrilllynch@xxxxxxxxx>
>To: ncsc-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 7:39 PM
>Subject: [ncsc-moths] Re: Problems with Prominents
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>Biundata
>On May 25, 2012 8:34 PM, "Bob Perkins" <perkybear@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>I spent time yesterday and today trying to puzzle out a large, dark Prominent, 
>using images from both days. My guess is Heterocampa  or Heterocampa 
>guttivitta, but it's time to ask. Suggestions please.
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>>Bob Perkins
>>Woodlawn, Virginia
>>Historian and General Outdoorsman
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