I should have kept reading through the e-mails. Upon further consideration I would agree with Ali on the ID. Ali, where did you run across the female Alsophilas? I've read that they, too, are attacted to light but that'd take a lot of work, getting from wherever they hang out (I'm guessing they don't gravitate toward peoples' decks and porches) to a lighted wall. I'd really like to see one of the females. Parker _____ From: ncsc-moths-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ncsc-moths-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ali Iyoob Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 4:32 PM To: ncsc-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ncsc-moths] Re: Moth ID Yeah, the wingless Fall Cankerworms are pretty crazy, came across a few last week. Try Fall Armyworm for your moth though, the shape and markings seem to be correct. Ali From: ncsc-moths-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ncsc-moths-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 2:50 PM To: ncsc-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ncsc-moths] Re: Moth ID Ali, For some reason I didn't get any Alsophila last year , although I'm getting quite a few this year. Anyway, since I'm not that familiar with them , I checked out Female Cankerworm on Bugguide and found it to be a wingless moth . You should definitely check it out so you're familiar with it if you come across one. I would never have recognized it as a moth . Paul