The first one appears to be 2072 – Chionodes discoocellella. As far as new state records go, remember that the range maps on MPG, BG and BAMONA are based for the most part on records submitted by people like you and me so they are probably incomplete. Still, it's always nice to be able to post the first BG record for your state. Ken Childs Henderson, TN Chester County http://tinyurl.com/FinishFlagFarmsMoths http://www.finishflagfarms.com ________________________________ From: Doug Allen <dougk4ly@xxxxxxxxx> To: ncsc-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, December 7, 2012 9:11 AM Subject: [ncsc-moths] Re: IDing December moths- or trying to! Hi Lori, Jean, Hugh, and Cecilia! Lori, bless you for working with kids and showing them the spendor and diversity of nature! I am still doing some of that, but mainly leading a spring birding and butterflying class for us old folks in the Life Long Learning Institute at Furman. Hugh- thanks for the ID- perhaps a late record for lower 48 based on MPG. I've been working on two tough IDs (for me!) this morning. For the first ID (two pics) is from Dec 3. I think I've looked at all the ones with labial palps that curve over the head in MPG, but there are a lot of species without photographs. Both the first and second, from Nov 2, may be new to SC- https://picasaweb.google.com/114446304105523815248/ForNCSCMothlistserv?authkey=Gv1sRgCOuuitL-o77h9wE# Doug Allen Windmill Hill, Spartanburg County, SC On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 7:56 PM, Mathis <weer@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Way to go, Lori! > >Cecelia >in Alleghany Co, NC >From: Lori Owenby >Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 6:06 PM >To: ncsc-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: [ncsc-moths] Re: IDing December moths- or trying to! > >Sorry, Doug! I thought my signature line went with the e-mail, but I guess I was wrong! I live in Catawba County, NC where I have the privilege of working for the county as Park Ranger doing both grunt work and educating the public about nature as a whole. My favorite part is when I get to get kids out into the woods (many for the first time) and let them experience nature first hand. I offer "moth club" events during the warm months to the public to come and see what all is out there after dark. I've been very successful at times with these events and have even had the chair of our County Commission bring her family out to participate. I feel it is pertinent to share our passions with others--especially the next generation--as they are truly the ones in control of the fate of many of these species. > > >On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 5:41 PM, Doug Allen <dougk4ly@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >Hi Lori, >> Thanks for the welcome and kind words. I have plenty of poor photographs, >>too! I'll be sharing them of necessity when I get stuck with an ID. After >>some research, I recently bought a used Panasonic Lumix DMC-ZR3 for $80 on >>Ebay, and it's better for macro than my other cameras, but not very good >>from several feet, or more, away. >>Mothing may be slow this time of year, but as some one mentioned in a post >>last year (I'm reading all the previous posts), I have hundreds of new >>species trapped inside my computer if I could only identify them! I haven't >>asked for help in IDing before and almost feel guilty doing it. Also, I >>think I have a better chance of remembering a species if I do the work of >>identifying it, but with so many species... >>Lori, you didn't mention where you are. >> >>Doug Allen Windmill Hill, SC >> >> >> >> >> >>On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Lori Owenby <loriowenby@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>Doug, I am so excited that you have joined our list and are now sharing >>photos from a very under-represented area in the "moth-world"! We had a >>flurry of new subscribers this week--and you all have joined at a GREAT >>time. The moth-ing is slow and not so overwhelming . . . . and it gives the >>rest of us ample time to help the newer folks get some id's. Your >>photography skills are awesome and I look forward to seeing more from you in >>the future. >>> >>>I looked through your photos and your identifications looked pretty good to >>>me but I don't have my big notebooks to reference at the moment as they are >>>at work. If no one else replies, I'll look at them when I get there in the >>>morning. >>> >>>Happy Mothing, ya'll! >>> >>>Lori >>> >>> >>> >>>On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Doug Allen <dougk4ly@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>>I've IDed almost half of the sixteen December species I've photographed, >>>but I wonder about the Roadside or Footpath or Holly or other Sallow. What >>>do you think? Also, I've included an unidentified species that stumped me >>>in November. >>>>We're back to seasonal weather, so perhaps no more moths or butterflies >>>>this week. >>>>Doug Allen Windmill Hill, SC >>>> >>>>https://picasaweb.google.com/114446304105523815248/DEC2012?authkey=Gv1sRgCMLy0ueX08-vsAE# >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>>----- >>>Lori Owenby >>>Park Ranger >>>Catawba County Parks >>>Conover, NC >>> >>>"The Constitution only guarantees the American people the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself." ~Benjamin Franklin >>> >> > > > -- >----- >Lori Owenby >Park Ranger >Catawba County Parks >Conover, NC > >"The Constitution only guarantees the American people the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself." ~Benjamin Franklin >