[ncsc-moths] Re: ID help, please

  • From: "J. Merrill Lynch" <jmerrilllynch@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: ncsc-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 16:01:50 -0500

I think you're absolutely right.  have you got pines around your place?

Merrill

On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 2:33 PM, kjchilds <kjchilds@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>  Last night I had something that appears to be from the same genus.  So
> far I haven't been able to find anything at MPG that fits, especially that
> red head.
>
> http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p193/kjchilds/Moths%202011/IMG_0718.jpg
>
> Ken Childs
> Henderson, TN
> Chester County
>
> http://www.finishflagfarms.com
>
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* Harry Wilson <harrywilson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> *To:* ncsc-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Sent:* Sat, February 19, 2011 12:48:12 PM
>
> *Subject:* [ncsc-moths] Re: ID help, please
>
>  Merrill,
>
> I feel a compulsion to identify my moths, I guess. Even without the
> specific ID, it is a lifer and one more example of how frequently a small
> moth on the sheet seems to be making a cameo appearance.
>
> Harry
>
>  *From:* J. Merrill Lynch <jmerrilllynch@xxxxxxxxx>
> *Sent:* Friday, February 18, 2011 8:12 PM
> *To:* ncsc-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [ncsc-moths] Re: ID help, please
>
>  Cool moth, Harry!  I don't think there is any doubt you have nailed the
> genus and I agree it looks a lot like Tom Murray's photo.  However, after
> looking at the specimen plates on MPG, there are a number of species in that
> genus that look similar.  All seem to be pine specialists.  I haven't looked
> too carefully but I bet there is a species that specializes on southern
> pines.  I wouldn't knock myself out trying to pin down which one; you did a
> great job getting it to genus!
>
> Merrill
>
> On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Harry Wilson 
> <harrywilson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
>> Moth-ers,
>>
>> I have decided that moths should be required to carry identification with
>> them. That way there will be some hope for me to maintain my sanity.
>>
>> Last night I took the attached photos, and many others, of a micro moth
>> that is giving me a headache. One problem is that my sheet was not anchored
>> as well as it should have been, so I had a constantly moving target. After
>> searching through MPG and BugGuide, I believe that the closest match is an
>> unlikely candidate, #2887.1,Rhyacionia duplana or Summer Shoot Moth/Elgin
>> Shoot Moth. It resembles Tom Murrays photos from Groton MA at
>> http://bugguide.net/node/view/382988 and
>> http://www.pbase.com/image/123416460. This is a European and Asian moth
>> that has been documented in the US only in MA, as far as I can tell. I have
>> included information on host plants and distribution to show why I discount
>> my tentative ID. I hope that someone may bring me back to my senses with a
>> better, more logical, ID.
>>
>> Host plants: Pinus sylvestris (Scots Pine), Pinus contorta var. latifolia
>> (Shore Pine, a common tree in western North America), Pinus thunbergii
>> (Japanese Black Pine, Japanese Pine, Black Pine – native to Japan and S.
>> Korea), Picea sitchensis (Sitka Spruce – from AK down coast to n. CA).
>> Distribution: Northern and Central Europe to Eastern Russia and Japan.
>> Also recorded from Korea, but Byun et al., 1998, have not found any
>> specimens.
>> In the UK, this species is represented by the subspecies Rhyacionia
>> duplana logaea , where it is also known as the Elgin shoot moth; in Japan
>> the subspecies Rhyacionia duplana simulata Heinrich occurs.
>>
>> Harry Wilson
>> Zebulon, NC
>>
>
>
>
> --
> J. Merrill Lynch
> Echo Valley Farm
> Watauga County, NC
> Elevation:  3,400 feet
>
>


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J. Merrill Lynch
Echo Valley Farm
Watauga County, NC
Elevation:  3,400 feet

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