I think you're absolutely right. have you got pines around your place? Merrill On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 2:33 PM, kjchilds <kjchilds@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Last night I had something that appears to be from the same genus. So > far I haven't been able to find anything at MPG that fits, especially that > red head. > > http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p193/kjchilds/Moths%202011/IMG_0718.jpg > > Ken Childs > Henderson, TN > Chester County > > http://www.finishflagfarms.com > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Harry Wilson <harrywilson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > *To:* ncsc-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > *Sent:* Sat, February 19, 2011 12:48:12 PM > > *Subject:* [ncsc-moths] Re: ID help, please > > Merrill, > > I feel a compulsion to identify my moths, I guess. Even without the > specific ID, it is a lifer and one more example of how frequently a small > moth on the sheet seems to be making a cameo appearance. > > Harry > > *From:* J. Merrill Lynch <jmerrilllynch@xxxxxxxxx> > *Sent:* Friday, February 18, 2011 8:12 PM > *To:* ncsc-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > *Subject:* [ncsc-moths] Re: ID help, please > > Cool moth, Harry! I don't think there is any doubt you have nailed the > genus and I agree it looks a lot like Tom Murray's photo. However, after > looking at the specimen plates on MPG, there are a number of species in that > genus that look similar. All seem to be pine specialists. I haven't looked > too carefully but I bet there is a species that specializes on southern > pines. I wouldn't knock myself out trying to pin down which one; you did a > great job getting it to genus! > > Merrill > > On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Harry Wilson > <harrywilson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote: > >> Moth-ers, >> >> I have decided that moths should be required to carry identification with >> them. That way there will be some hope for me to maintain my sanity. >> >> Last night I took the attached photos, and many others, of a micro moth >> that is giving me a headache. One problem is that my sheet was not anchored >> as well as it should have been, so I had a constantly moving target. After >> searching through MPG and BugGuide, I believe that the closest match is an >> unlikely candidate, #2887.1,Rhyacionia duplana or Summer Shoot Moth/Elgin >> Shoot Moth. It resembles Tom Murrays photos from Groton MA at >> http://bugguide.net/node/view/382988 and >> http://www.pbase.com/image/123416460. This is a European and Asian moth >> that has been documented in the US only in MA, as far as I can tell. I have >> included information on host plants and distribution to show why I discount >> my tentative ID. I hope that someone may bring me back to my senses with a >> better, more logical, ID. >> >> Host plants: Pinus sylvestris (Scots Pine), Pinus contorta var. latifolia >> (Shore Pine, a common tree in western North America), Pinus thunbergii >> (Japanese Black Pine, Japanese Pine, Black Pine – native to Japan and S. >> Korea), Picea sitchensis (Sitka Spruce – from AK down coast to n. CA). >> Distribution: Northern and Central Europe to Eastern Russia and Japan. >> Also recorded from Korea, but Byun et al., 1998, have not found any >> specimens. >> In the UK, this species is represented by the subspecies Rhyacionia >> duplana logaea , where it is also known as the Elgin shoot moth; in Japan >> the subspecies Rhyacionia duplana simulata Heinrich occurs. >> >> Harry Wilson >> Zebulon, NC >> > > > > -- > J. Merrill Lynch > Echo Valley Farm > Watauga County, NC > Elevation: 3,400 feet > > -- J. Merrill Lynch Echo Valley Farm Watauga County, NC Elevation: 3,400 feet