Thanks Jackie and Hugh! Hugh, was your response meant for all 4 photographs or just the last one? The ST line on the moth in IMG_7861 is very wavy which is something not seen in any of the photos of Gueneria similaria or Cabera erythemaria on MPG or BG. Maybe some more information will help pick the most likely ID. Does anyone know the flight season or size range for Gueneria similaria? The moth in IMG_7861 was photographed on 8/22 and had a wingspan of 18 mm which puts it under the 21-28mm range given for Cabera erythemaria. The first 3 were seen at the beginning of June. Ken Childs Henderson, TN Chester County http://tinyurl.com/Kens-Moths-2011 http://tinyurl.com/Night-Creatures http://www.finishflagfarms.com ________________________________ From: Hugh McGuinness <hdmcguinness@xxxxxxxxx> To: tn-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: "ncsc-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <ncsc-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 3:15 PM Subject: [ncsc-moths] Re: [tn-moths] Geometrid help I think the choice here is between Cabera erythemaria and Gueneria similaria (as in similar to Cabera). I find these very difficult to separate even in the hand, so I'm not sure there are any good characters for photos. For years I thought I had Cabera here on Long Island, and now I think that everything I have seen and taken is Gueneria. Let me know if anyone knows a good way to separate these two. Hugh On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 1:21 PM, kjchilds <kjchilds@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: All look fairly worn but I'm hoping enough is left for at least a possible ID. The first 3 may be the same species. #4 looks to be something different. > > >Ken Childs >Henderson, TN >Chester County > >http://tinyurl.com/Kens-Moths-2011 >http://tinyurl.com/Night-Creatures >http://www.finishflagfarms.com > > > -- Hugh McGuinness Sag Harbor, NY