Using the weave of the sheet as a basis for comparison, the second moth was larger than the first one by a noticeable amount. Hopefully I'll see more of the second one and get more photos. I went through the Tortricinae on the MPG site twice looking for a good match. No dice. Bob ----------------- On Apr 2, 2012, at 11:48 AM, J. Merrill Lynch wrote: > Bob, > > Were they the same size? The first moth has a slight concavity along > the forewing costa, lacking on the second moth, so I think they are > different species. Your I.D. on the first looks good. Don't know > about the second. > > Merrill ------------------------ Bob Perkins Woodlawn, Virginia Historian and General Outdoorsman