All, Rob and I have been playing around with VDE in one of the labs @ NCSC for a few months now. While doing some research I found this page on dpipe - one of the utilities that comes in the vde2 package. This section seemed enticing... "The command dpipe vde_plug = ssh remote.machine.org vde_plug connects two remote vde_switches. If the two vde_switches run as daemons and they are connected to tap interfaces, a layer 2 encrypted tunnel is established." [edited for grammar and clarity] I think there are some VERY interesting projects awaiting for anyone interested in VDE. Chuck