[nasional_list] Re: [ppiindia] Starbucks = Pendukung Militer Israel ?

  • From: ANDREAS MIHARDJA <mihardja@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: ppiindia@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 08:29:35 -0700 (PDT)

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diberikan untuk membuka mata kalian. 
  Jikalau kita ingin memberantas sesuatu kita harus menghancurkan akarnya dan 
jangan meusak embel2nya. Ini percuma dan buang waktu - sebab hasilnya nihil.
  Jikalau ingin Palestina merdeka silahkan menghadapi kesulitannya head-on. 
Untuk apa mutar2 dan buang waktu.  Jikalau mau ikut jihad silahkan that's your 
choice and you freedom - but don't forced somebody else to do it. Memberikan 
kemerdekaan kepada Palestina hanya dgn perundingan diPBB. 
   
  Indonesia mendapat kemerdekaannya juga melalui perundingan dan melalui PBB - 
bukan dgn perang gerilya. Pasukan kemerdekaan kan RI keok dihancurkan oleh 
KNIL.  . Sewaktu perundingan kemerdekaan RI tanpa bantuan USA Indonesia tidak 
mungkin merdeka dan juga Papua tidak kembali keRI.
   
  Umpamanya melarang pemakai pasport Indonesia utk ke Israel kan ini percuma. 
Orang Arab sendiri mondar-mandir Israel utk business - utk apa Indonesia 
menghukum penduduk Israel dan indonesia yg tidak dpt bersuara. Kalau harus 
berdagang dgn Israel atau jikalau Israel ingin membeli dari indonesia utk apa 
rakyat dirugikan.
   
  Jaman sekarang kalau ingin boycot sesuatu produk kan percuma.  Umpamanya chip 
computer dari Intel - sebagian besar adalah made in Haifa.  Sekarang computer 
Apple saja sudah pakai chip intel dan semua computer didunia hanya memakai chip 
Intel dan AMD [buatan German] Chip didalam handphone flashmemorynya buatan 
Samsung, Intel dan Spansion. Ini electronic. 
  Mobil karetnya dari Malaysia - electronicnya dari Japan atau Korea, motornya 
buatan Ingeris dan siapa tahu onderdil apa yg asal dari Israel. 
   
  Karena itu kalian jangan dunggu. Starbucks ada di Saudi, juga Kentucky 
chicken atau McDonald. Mereka tetap makan makanan mereka atau minum CocaCola yg 
pasti berbau Yahudi atau America-Zionist. Negara seperti Iran yg 100% anti US 
juga ada Coca-colanya atau ada computernya made in US/Israel.
  
Sekali lagi have a life and jangan membeo menuruti peer kalian
   
  Andreas
   
  
Satrio Arismunandar <satrioarismunandar@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
          Nggak pas, Bung. Rakyat jajahan ya nggak punya
pilihan.... Kasih merdeka dulu dong! 

--- Ambon <sea@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Bagaimana dengan dollar? Palestina itu pakai mata
> uang Israel yang namanya 
> Sekel.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Al-Badruuni Enterprise"
> <al_badruuni@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <ppiindia@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 11:36 AM
> Subject: Re: [ppiindia] Starbucks = Pendukung
> Militer Israel ?
> 
> 
> Ya,gue setuju.....STOP produk AS dan Israel.....
> 
> Mhoel <mulyadi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Pak Andreas juga perlu diinspirasi dari bangsa
> Korea...
> Carrefour aja di Korea bisa keok kok....
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Satrio Arismunandar"
> <satrioarismunandar@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <ppiindia@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 10:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [ppiindia] Starbucks = Pendukung
> Militer Israel ?
> 
> >
> > Oh, come oonnnnn...... Your explanation is a kind
> of
> > exagerating many things....
> >
> > People still can live happily ever after without
> > McDonald, Budweisser, etc.... And before 1948,
> there
> > was no Israel....
> >
> > Oh, one more thing. As a vegetarian, I don't need
> any
> > chicken and I still have a life....
> >
> >
> > --- ANDREAS MIHARDJA <mihardja@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > Its your choice to boycot a company or an
> > > organisation, although to me it looks more like
> a
> > > peer pressure stupidity.
> > > If you start thinking - boycot this for that -
> > > well youmust stop using products that are from
> any
> > > multi national company. You start stop
> purchasing
> > > products from McDonald till Budweisser or
> anywine
> > > products from any country. You alsmo may stop
> eating
> > > chiken because all the chicks are organized
> through
> > > an international consortium from animal to food
> and
> > > I am sure some of them are jewish or sure
> american.
> > > Also do not take international aid or help it is
> all
> > > tainted with jewish people who are out to
> destroy
> > > the poor people of the world. Deny any foreign
> aid
> > > because the bosse are pro Israel and are mostl;y
> > > zionist from the USA.
> > > Just live like the people of Afghanistan during
> > > the Taliban regime - they also do not except
> foreign
> > > aid besides "jihad" money from antizionist
> > > movements.
> > > Have a life !!
> > > Andreas
> > >
> > > Satrio Arismunandar
> <satrioarismunandar@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > wrote:
> > > Dari aljazeera.com
> > >
> > > Boycott Israel"
> > > 7/17/2006 1:46:00 AM GMT
> > > Advertisement
> > >
> > > Israel's barbaric policies against Palestinians
> > > prompted worldwide calls to boycott it, its
> products
> > > and all companies, and organisations that
> provide it
> > > with the ability to continue its agression,
> which
> > > has
> > > claimed the lives of many innocent civilians,
> > > including women and children.
> > >
> > > And recently Israel stepped up its offensive
> against
> > > the Palestinian people as well as the Lebanese
> > > population, killing scores of innocent civilians
> and
> > > inflicting sever damage on both countries'
> > > infrastructure.
> > >
> > > Starbucks, the well known coffee company known
> for
> > > its
> > > pro-Israel stance, announced once contributing
> > > £100,000 to Oxfam's rural development programme
> in
> > > the
> > > East Harare coffee growing region of Ethiopia,
> but
> > > Oxfam, an international organization dedicated
> to
> > > finding long-term solutions to poverty, hunger,
> and
> > > social injustice worldwide, decided to severe
> its
> > > links with Starbucks, the purveyor of the
> world's
> > > finest coffee with 4,709 locations around the
> world.
> > >
> > > "Starbucks' chair Howard Schultz is an active
> > > Zionist
> > > whose own activities include running propaganda
> > > seminars on behalf of Israel across campuses in
> both
> > > North America and Israel."
> > > Oxfam denied allegations that Muslim groups were
> > > behind its decision to terminate its
> collaboration
> > > with coffee conglomerate Starbucks.
> > >
> > > In a Financial Times article published on 4
> March
> > > 2005, Oxfam acknowledged that it had "received
> > > criticism and protest letters from Muslim
> > > organisations but said its decision was the
> result
> > > of
> > > a change in strategic thinking in its Make Trade
> > > Fair
> > > campaign. 'At the time we signed our agreement
> with
> > > Starbucks UK, we looked into allegations of the
> > > company's relations with the Israeli Defence
> Force
> > > and
> > > other similar claims and found nothing that
> could
> > > justify ending our collaboration. That remains
> the
> > > case,' said Phil Bloomer, head of Oxfam's Make
> Trade
> > > Fair campaign."
> > > Oxfam claimed that its partnership with
> Starbucks
> > > was
> > > only intended as a one-year initiative.
> > >
> > > Since Oxfam announced its partnership with
> Starbucks
> > > last October, a Boycott Israel Campaign has
> lobbied
> > > against the organisation, accusing it of double
> > > standards.
> > >
> > > "The collaboration with Starbucks was always a
> > > one-year agreement and as an organisation with
> > > finite
> > > resources we need to ensure that we're working
> in
> > > ways
> > > that will have the most impact," said an Oxfam
> > > spokesman.
> > >
> > > "This has led to our decision not to focus
> > > exclusively
> > > on a partnership with one corporation but to
> broaden
> > > out our focus to include different coffee
> companies
> > > and other areas of fair trade."
> > >
> > > But whether Oxfam's motioned reason for severing
> > > ties
> > > with Starbucks is true remains in question.
> > >
> > > In 1998 Howard Schultz was honored by the
> Jerusalem
> > > Fund of Aish HaTorah with "The Israel 50th
> > > Anniversary
> > > Friend of Zion Tribute Award"
> foid\cdp.browserpport
> > > to
> 
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