Sounds good! Like I said, I'm really interested in the transport model; I want
to see if there is a way of adapting NNG to delay-tolerant networks.
Thanks,
Cem Karan
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$10 seems about right for an ibooks form of document; furthermore, with iBooks
we have a way to keep the document “updated” as things evolve, and that can be
done for free for folks who’ve paid for the doc.
I’m not sure if the same is true for Amazon’s platform, and I have ~0
experience with Barnes & Noble’s nook platform or any other platforms that
might be in use in other countries.
- Garrett
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The problem with dead trees (and any electronic form that mimics them) is that
the underlying technology needs to be very, very stable before it's worth
investing in the book. TCP/IP, sockets, lots of algorithms, etc., have that
level of stability and understanding. nng's API is going to undergo (probably
minor) changes that will make a dead tree really, really frustrating to read
when you're first trying to learn the API ('in the example it said to do X, but
I had to do Y to make it work because nng's API changed! This sucks!'). Once
you get nng to 1.0 and the API is completely stable, you'll have more luck
selling a dead tree.
All that said, I really do like well written _and thoroughly cross-referenced_
PDFs that I can take with me on the road (handy when you're on the plane and
don't want to pay to get internet access). I'm cheap though, and probably
would only pay ~USD 10 for anything. I would be interested in the and “NNG
Transport Developer’s Guide” as I'm working on writing my own transport for
MANETs, but would need to layer on a bunch of stuff on to nng for it to work.
Thanks,
Cem Karan
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Subject: [Non-DoD Source] [nanomsg] Would you buy a “printed” (or ebook) form
of the NNG Reference Manual?
I’ve gone through the process of making a unified book form of the NNG
reference manual this weekend. Its about 212 pages long, although it isn’t
complete. It did take some effort to preprocess the pages in order to generate
what is actually a quite beautiful document.
I’m wondering if there would be interest in having a printed form (or ebook
form, perhaps via Amazon or iBooks) of the book? Would you pay for it (a real
desk reference)? How much would you be willing to pay for such a thing? What
form is more attractive to you, printed and bound format, or electronic book
form?
Note that all of the technical content in the book is also available in online
manual pages (and I might add RFCs), so there would not be any compelling need
to purchase the book — I’m not trying to force users to spend money to access
NNG in any way. (Some of the ancillary material, such as the Preface and
chapter introduction materials are only in the book form though.)
The idea would be to generate a little more revenue to continue funding the
development of NNG and the related protocols, and give users a way to give back
to the effort while showing their “pride” in NNG with a coveted space on their
bookshelf.
I’m also contemplating writing a real “User’s Guide” — more like a traditional
tech book with tutorial and recipes, sort of like “NNG for Dummies” (perhaps
titled “Building Distributed Applications with Scalability Protocols” — which
could cover nng, mangos, and even legacy nanomsg.) Again, I’d like to have the
option to generate some revenue by formal publication. It’s less obvious to me
that such a book would necessarily be made freely available — it might
depending upon how the authoring of it is funded.
There’s some opportunity to create some other documents as well, although
probably less widely interesting (“NNG Protocol Developer’s Guide” and “NNG
Transport Developer’s Guide”, which might be combined, or perhaps an “NNG
Internals” book.)
- Garrett
