I understand that libosc performs a function analagous to Ecasound's Net-IAM: Send something and get something. We have the list of commands, help files, everything we can return to commands delivered via OSC. So guys who build their own GUIs can use Nama/Ecasound as the engine. I think Nama's command language is good! The only challenge for this is that many of Nama's print/say statements need to get stuffed into an array that can be dumped as a response to a command. And there are 539 print/say statements in Nama! BTW, I've decided on the Nama logo, it will be a lilac or purple alien octopus with tentacles around logos of many other Linux audio applications. In the hentai porn style of primary color brightness. Perhaps an island behind with a palm tree showing ocean and blue sky. I've got other ideas, too. :-) I'm thinking to try a two hour experiment with something OO, and if I succeed I can go over to the other side! With LV2, we cant just let the names clobber LADSPA? What if we each LV2 gets access via lv2-<urlsuffix>, seem like a small price to pay in typing, (whether hyphen or underscore). -- Joel Roth