anyone know of a program or menuling/dockling that will show all the items on the mac desktop? In os 9 I had a CSM that did that, and it was a lot more convenient than searching through my icon cluttered desktop. Not to mention you dont have to close/minimize open windows to see that cluttered desktop. _________________________________________________ For information concerning the MUGLO List just click on http://muglo.on.ca/pages/members.html#Joinmuglo Don't forget to periodically check our web site at: http://muglo.on.ca/