Perhaps some more closely related Mac sites would help. http://www.ehmac.ca/showthread.php?t=25971 http://forums.about.com/ab-macsupport/messages/?msg=2311.1 Although the recently revamped "ehmac" site's "New Classified" is not as good as it was, the Forums section is quite well laid out with defined subject matter & dated replies. Hope these examples are of some help. TeeC ----------------------------------------------------------- MUGLO information at <http://www.freewebs.com/muglo> Manage list subscription options at <//www.freelists.org/list/muglo> -----------------------------------------------------------