I certainly have a lot to learn in that arena. When I dial my ISP, i usually get speeds of wapping 19.2 speed. As you stated, i am consistently @ 28.8 when i dial in direct to my server. My thought that it would be a little faster or @ least consistent speed( @ least if there were lots of traffic on the isp). DSL is not available up here( a pretty isolated community in the mountains). But, let me bounce what my thought was off of you and see if I am correct if you don't mind. My performance increase would occur if: I actually was retrieving data over the internet ( because that data only traveled to my office pc, as opposed to all that data traveling across a dial-up and I am using enterprise manager a lot). Secondly, it would improve if I was downloading, because it also would only be to downloading to the office machine. Also, I thought there are scripts built into the pages being served that would reduce performance some if they were being served to the dial-up pc as opposed to just pixel changes. I would see no real improvement( or limited) if: I were changing the elements of the screens a lot( like watching video) because it would be sending major pixel changes across my dial up(sound and print jobs the same way). Input is greatly appreciated. Best Regards, Chris -----Original Message----- From: mswindowsxp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mswindowsxp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Jim Betz Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 12:58 AM To: mswindowsxp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [mswindowsxp] Re: Remote computer as ... WWW speed tutuorial included for free Chris, I don't like to be the bearer of bad tidings but ... Internet speed is - pure and simple - the speed of the slowest link. If you think of any internet connection as: The computer you are using -> LAN -> local internet server/router -> line between your local facility and phone company 'central office -> the rest of the phone company links between you and your ISP (or in this case the 'office computer') -> all of the modems/computers/routers there -> other "interim" stuff -> the web backbone (ie. beyond your ISP but not all the way to the other end) -> some other ISP on the other end -> its modems/computers/routers -> the line between that ISP and the actual web server you are connecting to's network -> whatever local modems/computers/routers/ ethernet connections they are using -> and -FINALLY- the computer that is actually serving up the page(s) you want. (Some of these links may or may not exist in your specific situation - others may exist I have not listed ... it makes no difference. Why? Because this is a "slowest link" scenario!) We tend to think only of 'connect speed' ... but actually WWW speed is a combination of all of the above - and is especially sensitive to 'the weakest/slowest link'. And, regrettably, we can't do anything to speed up what is outside of our control - so anything beyond our local line speed is often left out of the equation but DOES affect us and is why sometimes when you go from a DSL to a T1 line you don't see any meaningful improvement in surfing/download speed (for a specific site ... yes, T1 is faster for most stuff and even "over all"). When you reread that paragraph above and think about how many individual pieces of technology you are using when you use the WWW to just do something as simple as send a text email message ... well sometimes I just genuflect and cross myself and say "I'm surprised this stuff works at all!" ... much less how fast it actually is to download several MBs of a single file from a truly busy server such as MicroSoft Windows update! So ... back to your attempt ... in what you are doing the weakest link is the line between your home computer and the company system. That line will be - quite probably - SLOWER than just dialing up to your ISP. Computer-Computer direct links often run at a MAX of 28,800 BITS per second! The truth is - just because the modems on both ends are 56kb modems doesn't mean that the two computers will talk that fast when using a computer-computer link. No matter how fast the connection to your company's server is it will probably not be 'faster than whatever direct dial-up to any ISP you are already using' is ... because you are talking about using a phone line connection which will never run faster than 53,300 (because the phone company won't let it go faster than that) and when the biggest factor controlling your phone line speed is the distance between you and your "central office" (aka a "CO" by the phone company - which is a phone company specifc computer somewhere in your neighborhood and not necessarily in a building that has people in it and all that stuff). My suggestion is - nice idea but don't waste your time trying to make it work. You won't find it is any faster than just dialing up to your ISP. You are probably using a 2nd phone line for your internet. And paying for both that line and your ISP. Just convert that line to DSL - without a voice capability - and the DSL speed will cost you, at most, about $10/month more than what you are already paying for phone line PLUS the ISP charges. ================================== To Unsubscribe, set digest or vacation mode or view archives use the below link. http://thethin.net/winxplist.cfm ================================== To Unsubscribe, set digest or vacation mode or view archives use the below link. http://thethin.net/winxplist.cfm