For 'standard' font characters this is true. For the special symbols it is not. I already have his font - what I don't know is how to get the special symbols. The actual symbol doesn't matter. This could just as easily be about math symbols or anything else you want to name that has special "characters". ================================== To Unsubscribe, set digest or vacation mode or view archives use the below link. http://thethin.net/O2Klist.cfm