Since I believe Linda is busy getting ready for a holiday, I'll jump in here. To help verify that it's the Acrobat template, start Word by clicking Start/Run and typing winword.exe /a and hit enter. That should start Word and will stop all the "addins" from being included...including the Acrobat stuff. If things work OK...then it means that there is a template being added that is causing the conflict. It's a common problem with that template! So you need to find it. It'll most likely be located in one of your STARTUP directories for Office. Look for /office/startup and particularly word/startup and see if they hold what appears to be the adobe DOT file template. If you need to keep it there, you can rename it to .old for now and then it won't be added. When you need to use it...close Word, rename it to .dot and reopen Word. But you should check the acrobat site. I think they've added an updated file that helps fix the problem...cos' so many have complained about it. Here's a link that should help: http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/update.html Good luck! Dian Chapman Technical Consultant, Instructor, Microsoft MVP & TechTrax Editor Word AutoForm/VBA eBook: http://www.mousetrax.com/books.html Tutorial web site: http://www.mousetrax.com/techpage.html TechTrax Ezine: http://www.mousetrax.com/techtrax/ -----Original Message----- From: mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Robin Kiser Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 2:46 PM To: mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [mso] Re: Trouble closing office programs - please help Hi Linda. I think you just hit the nail on the head. Youwrote: Also...you aren't by any chance running Adobe Acrobat or something like that? As a matter of fact, I use Acrobat quite a bit. After reading your note, I went into the Word Tool menu and tried un-checking the PDFMaker addin. As soon as I clicked OK, Word shut down immediately and gave me the same error screen I mentioned earlier. Now that the problem has been narrowed down, is there some way to remedy this situation without removing Acrobat entirely from my system? I do use the program quite a bit and would hate to have to give it up. Thanks again for the advice so far. I believe I can see the light at the end of the tunnel now (and, this time, I don't think it's the headlamp of the 4:15). ;-) -Robin __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com ************************************************************* You are receiving this mail because you subscribed to mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx or MicrosoftOffice@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To send mail to the group, simply address it to mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To Unsubscribe from this group, send an email to mso-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?Subject=unsubscribe Or, visit the group's homepage and use the dropdown menu. This will also allow you to change your email settings to digest or vacation (no mail). //www.freelists.org/webpage/mso To be able to use the files section for sharing files with the group, send a request to mso-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and you will be sent an invitation with instructions. Once you are a member of the files group, you can go here to upload/download files: http://www.smartgroups.com/vault/msofiles ************************************************************* ************************************************************* You are receiving this mail because you subscribed to mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx or MicrosoftOffice@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To send mail to the group, simply address it to mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To Unsubscribe from this group, send an email to mso-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?Subject=unsubscribe Or, visit the group's homepage and use the dropdown menu. This will also allow you to change your email settings to digest or vacation (no mail). //www.freelists.org/webpage/mso To be able to use the files section for sharing files with the group, send a request to mso-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and you will be sent an invitation with instructions. Once you are a member of the files group, you can go here to upload/download files: http://www.smartgroups.com/vault/msofiles *************************************************************