This will seem OT but I'm offering it as an example of why we should all, perhaps, feel a little more grateful for plain english programming languages like VBA. Take a look one of the Notices to Airmen that every pilot flying in the US today gets to translate and understand before taking off: Data Current as of: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 01:13:00 GMT 3/9082 - 3/9052 CANCELLED BY FDC 3/9082 ON 09/16/03 01:07 CANCEL 3/9052 - PART 1 OF 3 FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS DREXEL HILL, PENNSYLVANIA, SEPTEMBER 15, 2003 LOCAL. PURSUANT TO TITLE 14, SECTION 91.141 OF THE CODE OF FEDERAL REGULATIONS AIRCRAFT FLIGHT OPERATIONS ARE PROHIBITED WITHIN 30 NMR UP TO BUT NOT INCLUDING FL180 OF 395648N/0751856W OR THE OOD008018.6 FROM 0309151835 (1435 LOCAL 09/15/03) UNTIL 0309160010 (2010 LOCAL 09/15/03). WITHIN 10 NMR UP TO BUT NOT INCLUDING FL180 OF 395648N/0751856W OR THE OOD008018.6 FROM 0309151835 (1435 LOCAL 09/15/03) UNTIL 0309160010 (2010 LOCAL 09/15/03). EXCEPT AS SPECIFIED BELOW AND/OR UNLESS AUTHORIZED BY ATC: A. ALL AIRCRAFT OPERATIONS WITHIN A 10 NMR AREA LISTEDABOVE ARE PROHIBITED EXCEPT FOR: 1. LAW ENFORCEMENT AND MILITARY AIRCRAFT, DIRECTLY SUPPORTING THE UNITED STATES SECRET SERVICE (USSS), EMERGENCY MEDICAL FLIGHTS, REGULARLY SCHEDULED COMMERCIAL PASSENGER AND CARGO AIRCRAFT THAT MEET OR EXCEED THE TSAS DOMESTIC SECURITY INTEGRATED PROGRAM STANDARDS AND ARE ARRIVING INTO AND/OR DEPARTING FROM 14 CF R PART 139 AIRPORTS. 2.. FO PART 2 OF 3 FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS DREXEL HILL, PA. GOING INTO EFFECT TO AVOID POTENTIAL DELAYS. B. WITHIN THE AIRSPACE BETWEEN 10 NMR AND 30 NMR RESPECTIVELY AREA LISTED ABOVE: 1. ALL AIRCRAFT ENTERING OR EXITING THE 30 NM RADIUS TFR SHALL BE ON AN ACTIVE IFR OR VFR FLIGHT PLAN WITH A DISCRETE CODE ASSIGNED BY AN AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL (ATC) FACILITY. AIRCRAFT SHALL BE SQUAWKING THE DISCRETE CODE PRIOR TO DEPARTURE AND AT ALL TIMES WHILE IN THE TFR. 2. ALL AIRCRAFT ENTERING OR EXITING THE 30 NM RADIUS TFR MUST REMAIN IN TWO-WAY RADIO COMMUNICATIONS WITH ATC. 3. ALL AIRCRAFT OPERATING WITHIN THE AIRSPACE BETWEEN A 10 TO 30 NM RAIDUS TFR AND OPERATING AT ALTITUDES OF UP TO BUT NOT INCLUDING FL180 ARE LIMITED TO AIRCRAFT ARRIVING OR DEPARTING LOCAL AIRFIELDS AND ATC MAY AUTHORIZE TRANSIT OPERATIONS. AIRCRAFT MAY NOT LOITER. 4. FLIGHT TRAINING, PRACTICE INSTRUMENT APPROACHES, AEROBATIC FLIGHT, GLIDER OPERATIONS, PARACHUTE OPERATIONS, ULTRALIGHT, HANG GLIDING, BALLOON OPERATIONS AGRICULTURE/CR OP DUSTING, ANIMAL POPULAT PART 3 OF 3 FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS DREXEL HILL, PA. MEET OR EXCEED THE TSA(S) DOMESTIC SECURITY INSPECTION PROGRAM STANDARDS; ARE NOT AUTHORIZED. 5. ALL U.S. SECRET SERVICE CLEARED AIRCRAFT OPERATORS BASED IN THE AREA SHOULD NOTIFY THE US SECRET SERVICE PRIOR TO THEIR DEPARTURE. 6. ALL MEDICAL FLIGHT OPERATION COMPANIES SHALL COORDINATE WITH THE USSS PRIOR TO THIS NOTAM GOING INTO EFFECT TO AVOID POTENTIAL DELAYS WHEN THE NOTAM IS IN EFFECT. C. IT IS RECOMMENDED THAT ALL AIRCRAFT OPERATORS CHECK NOTAMS FREQUENTLY FOR POSSIBLE REQUIRED CHANGES TO THIS TFR PRIOR TO OPERATIONS WITHIN THIS REGION. END PART 3 OF 3 WIE UNTIL UFN *END* Folks, that's precisely how they look when we get 'em. And,not to show off, here's all that it boils down to: The president was to be in the vicinity of Drexel Hill, Pa. today. Within 10 miles of a point on the map, no aircraft may fly below 18,000 feet without being operated by civil authorities or without a specific, controller issued transponder code. All flights must be on a flight plan and in constant communication with controllers. No loitering, no training, no practicing. And it WIE UFN (Will be In Effect Until Further Notice). I like VBA. Greg Chapman http://www.mousetrax.com "Counting in binary is as easy as 01, 10, 11! With thinking this clear, is coding really a good idea?" ************************************************************* You are receiving this mail because you subscribed to mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx or MicrosoftOffice@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To send mail to the group, simply address it to mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To Unsubscribe from this group, send an email to mso-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" (without the quotes) in the subject line. Or, visit the group's homepage and use the dropdown menu. This will also allow you to change your email settings to digest or vacation (no mail). //www.freelists.org/webpage/mso To be able to use the files section for sharing files with the group, send a request to mso-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and you will be sent an invitation with instructions. Once you are a member of the files group, you can go here to upload/download files: http://www.smartgroups.com/vault/msofiles *************************************************************