[mso] Re: Excel Date Format Problem
- From: Wendall Oakes <wendallo@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 19:15:55 -0700 (PDT)
I'd like to thank you and everyone for your help. I have learned new
information to help me in future spreadsheets. I don't think there is much I
can do with this spreadsheet. I believe the source of the data is the problem,
which is really no problem. I just wanted to change the appearance of the data.
Thank you
Wendall
--- On Mon, 7/6/09, David Smart <smartware@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: David Smart <smartware@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [mso] Re: Excel Date Format Problem
To: mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Monday, July 6, 2009, 4:40 PM
I recommend that you get a new spreadsheet and type a few dates into it,
then experiment with the formatting change. If it doesn't change properly
there, then you're doing something wrong. Get back to us with information
on exactly what you're doing.
If it's OK there, but not in your imported sheet, you need to check on
whether the date is in a cell formatted as text. If it is, then changing
the format will not change the look directly. You need to convert the date
to a date first, then you'll be able to change its look with the formatting.
To do this, set a date format for the cell that matches what it looks like
already. Then F2 the cell and hit enter. The information should now be
stored as a date, and new formats should be acted on.
Regards, Dave S
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wendall Oakes" <wendallo@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 5:01 AM
Subject: [mso] Re: Excel Date Format Problem
>I go to Go to "Format" - "Cells" - "Date".
> It only changes when I re-type the date in. That is the problem I am
> trying to solve.
> I know how to formate, but the date is only changing when I retype it in.
> It is formated corrected.
> Â
> I import the data in and formate the data.
> But I have to re-type all the dates back in before they change.
> Â
> Wendall
> --- On Mon, 7/6/09, James Wells <colonel_46@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
> From: James Wells <colonel_46@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [mso] Re: Excel Date Format Problem
> To: mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Monday, July 6, 2009, 1:15 PM
>
>
> Go to "Format" - "Cells" - "Date".
> JRW
>
> --- On Mon, 7/6/09, Wendall Oakes <wendallo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> From: Wendall Oakes <wendallo@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [mso] Re: Excel Date Format Problem
> To: mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Monday, July 6, 2009, 8:30 AM
>
> Thank You Ruby. Your instructions do work, however, Is there a way to make
> the date change when I make the adjustment. At this time I have to
> re-type the date in for the formated date to appear the way I like, such
> as 7/6/09 to 07/06/09. I have tried to re-copy format, but it does not
> appear to work. It copies the same date down. I just want to keep my dates
> and change the look.
> Thank You
> Wendall
> --- On Fri, 7/3/09, R. Kowaney <rubyco@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
> From: R. Kowaney <rubyco@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [mso] Re: Excel Date Format Problem
> To: mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Friday, July 3, 2009, 2:00 AM
>
>
> After reading through the thread, let me see if this will work for you.
>
> My Excelâ?Ts Date format Type list show *3/14/2001 and *Wednesday, March
> 14, 2001
>
> My Time format Type list show *1:30:55 PM
>
> These 3 formats that have an asterisk beside them correspond to the
> Regional and Language Options settings (Time, Long Date, Short Date) in
> the operating system. If you use these particular formats, and the files
> are opened in another computer with a different Regional setting, it will
> follow the destination computer's Regional settings.
>
> To avoid this type of unexpected change, you can customize your date type
> format.
> I will use *3/14/2001 as an example:
> To start, click on the cell that has the date you want to format.
> 1. On the menu bar, click on Format, Cells
> 2. Click on Number tab
> 3. Select Date in the Category list
> 4. Click on *3/14/2001 in the Type list
> 5. Then, click on 3/14/01 (THE ONE WITHOUT *)
> You may ALSO choose 03/14/01 or 3/14/2001 or 3/14 whatever closest type is
> available. (also without *)
> 6. Then click on Custom (last item in Category list)
> 7. The format code will be m/d/yy;@ in the Type textbox
> 8. Change it to m/d/yyyy;@ (we just added 2 y's)
> 9. Click OK on the Format Cells dialog box
> You will now have a date format that will travel well and not change with
> operating systems and their settings.
> If you go back to Format, Cells, you will no longer have an * on the Type
> that you customized. That means the date or time format will not be pegged
> to the operating system's settings.
>
> This should work similarly with the Long Date as well as Time settings.
>
> Ruby
>
>
> --- From: David Smart <smartware@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Jul 2, 2009 2:54 PM
>
> Not sure what you mean by automatically change. You need to manually
> select a different format for the date.
>
> What are the steps you're going through to try to change the date format?
> What is the formula you are using to extract the date? What does the data
> you're extracting from look like?
>
>
>
> --- From: "Wendall Oakes" <wendallo@xxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 1:19 AM
>
> I have typed in 39993.75 and you are correct I do get the 2nd of July.Â
> However, I am trying to change the ormatting of the date from exampleÂ
> 7/02/2009 to 07/02/09 and it will not automatically change. It will
> change if I hand type in each date. The formula I use to extract out data
> that I don't want will not change no matter what I do. I used another
> column to store this data that will not change.
>
> --- On Thu, 7/2/09, David Smart <smartware@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> I don't think that the star at the front has anything to do with the dateÂ
> situation.
>
> What date do you see if you enter the number 39996.75 into a date field?Â
> If everything is working properly, you should see today (2nd of July)
> with a time of 6 pm if you're displaying time too.
>
> If you're in 1904 mode, then this number will show a date of 3rd of JulyÂ
> 2013.
>
> IIRC, the two formats that have the asterisks are triggers for Excel toÂ
> use the short and long date formats from the operating system settings -
> i.e. locale specific and user preference specific. Certainly, these
> asterisks
> are not an error, and I don't think they can switch you to a different Â
>  date system.
>
> At this point there is no way to remove or change the (star at theÂ
> front). The format stays the same when I copy the cells.
>
> This is quite correct and is as it should be. If you want to change the
> cell's format, simply select a different one. Most of the predefined dateÂ
> formats do not have the asterisk.
>
>
> --- From: "Wendall Oakes" <wendallo@xxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 11:44 AM
>
> I also have the same situation with the (star at the front). I justÂ
> checked the spreadsheet and under options / calculation (in 2003) theÂ
> checkbox called "1904 date system" was not checked. So this answer didÂ
> not
> help me. At this point there is no way to remove or change the (star atÂ
> the front). The format stays the same when I copy the cells.
>
> Â --- On Wed, 7/1/09, David Smart <smartware@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Under options / calculation (in 2003 anyway) there is a checkbox calledÂ
> "1904 date system". I suspect it's ticked in your errant workbook.
>
> --- <larryspcremedies@xxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 3:48 AM
>
> I received a spreadsheet with a date column that?was originally formated
> with the "*mm/dd/yyyy" format (note the star at the front). I do not know
> what version of Excel was originally used to create the spreadsheet or
> on what platform.
> The interesting problem about it is that the date is displayed four years
> and?one day in the future.
> For instance, the date in in one cell is displayed as "7/8/1992? 1:26:24
> AM" when it should be "7/7/1988? 1:26:24 AM". If I copy the cell to a new
> spreadsheet it displays correctly. The cell contents of both the old and
> new spreadsheets, if displayed as a decimal number,?is 32331.06
> This?corresponds to the example?given in?"How to use dates and times in
> Excel"?in http://support.microsoft.com/kb/214094?
> No matter what I do in regard to formatting (changing it from date to
> text, to general to any other format), I can't get the date cells to show
> the correct date in the old spreadheet. I even tried switching between
> Excel 2008 and 2007 ... no joy in Mudville.
> It's obvious?the problem is?somehow releated to leap years I know what to
> do to correct the data in the spreadsheet, i.e., copy the whole dang
> spreadsheet from the problematical spreadsheet into a new
> spreadsheet, but I sure would like an explanation and thought I'd share
> this with you guys as a "Humph! I should check the dates in this
> spreadsheet"?
> Has anyone ever had or seen?this sort of problem?
>
>
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