My 2 cents . . . (worth about half!) :) Excel and Access both have their value, it depends on what your role is, and your relationship to the capturing, maintenance and reporting of data for your project/company. If you know Excel, can whip up something fast and send it out, go for it! It's easy to figure things out fast and make them look good and get the totals you want. Usually the next person you send it to is familiar enough with Excel to do what they need with it. My boss understood the need for data to be captured and maintained for reporting, so she bought me Access and sent me to class. She did not need nor want to take the time to learn it herself. That is probably the biggest difference, is that most people do not come into contact with Access on a daily basis unless it is a part of their job or will be, such as what happened to me. Now that I know Access and what it can do, if I'm going to handle the same data more than once and am going to want to look at it in a variety of ways, I get it into Access so I can do various reporting. Can always export it to Excel if charts/other fancy things needed. If the data is going to build and grow and be a life in itself, it needs to get into Access so you can care for it. If it's a one time passing through, you won't see it again, won't need it again, use whatever is fastest and most comfortable. I use Access side by side with Excel, they are my 'team'. Many times I copy my access tables and paste into an excel sheet to check my totals before finalizing my query/report, due to sometimes if you are not careful, and you think you are summarizing things OK in access and don't have your table relationships right, things can happen. I cut/paste back and forth all the time from Excel to Access, sometimes to convert dates/numbers I've copied from an email table or a word table, using Excel to quickly format/copy/manipulate before pasting back to Access. Prefer calculations in Access, mostly because once Excel came along, I went pretty much straight from Lotus 123 to Access and (I still use the convert Lotus 123 formulas feature in Excel). If there's data that needs to be captured, whether from text or table or other source, Excel is great for grabbing it and putting it into a format to either import or paste into Access. The copy/fill series function in Excel works great to add things to your data before putting back into Access. They compliment each other and both have their strengths. In my situation, I receive work from a variety of sources/formats and usually turn it around for them in the application they need, then capture the data in Access for further reporting/mail merges/labels/etc. Also export most of my queries and reports to Excel because the other users who need to use/manipulate the data are more comfortable with Excel. Once they do their changes, I use Access to capture their revised data. That way, we're both happy! "Peter Chiavaro" <kp@xxxxxxxx> To: <mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent by: mso-bounce@freelist cc: s.org 06/08/2004 06:52 AM Subject: [mso] Database or Spreadsheet Please respond to mso ..... Hello fellow Office Dweebs. I am amazed at the amount of people that are using a spreadsheet when (I think) they should be using a database. I'm not real sure about this but it looks like (to me anyway) most of the questions from people using Excel, look like the people should be using Access. I don't understand. It could be that that I have no idea what I'm talking about because I have never used Excel. I have no idea "what" to use it for let alone HOW to use it. I "think" it's good for formulas, as in making Ice cream. So much sugar, so much milk, so much flavoring etc. Can someone explain what the difference is between a spreadsheet and a database? My MAIN question would be; what is it that Excel can do that Access CAN'T. If someone could answer that one question, I'd be very happy. I've always been curious about this but have always been afraid to show my ignorance. Peter C. Stuart, FL ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. 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