I made 4 mistakes already this morning: 1. Getting out of my warm waterbed 2. Getting out of a hot shower 3. Getting out of a warm house 4. Getting out of a warm car It's too early to commit to a Sunday morning run based upon two factors. What will the weather be like? Will I be recovered from last Sunday's debacle at Skull Valley? If anybody schedules a short run on Sunday, I'll probably attend. BTW, we don't know what winter really is here in Prescott! CJ