I can't believe Lisi Reisz compared apt-get install kde to what you need to do to get a different init system working, without all sorts of side effects. She really is in love with systemd. I thought it was just a summer thing. SteveT ============================================================= Begin forwarded message: Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2014 10:52:56 -0300 From: Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI <renaud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: debian-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: engineering management practices and systemd (Re: Installing an Alternative Init?) On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 13:10:22 +0000 Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Do you remember the Gnome/KDE war? Now > > we have two great desktop. Let's not impose by law an init system. > > Yes, but Gnome is the default and you have to be an "advanced user" > to get KDE. Not really, you just have to choose whether you download the Gnome-CD, the KDE-CD, or the Xfce-CD (which I prefer). There is choice without being "advanced". Cheers, Ron.