[modeleng] Re: stolen engines and equipment
- From: "Jeff Dayman" <jeffdayman@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 08:41:59 -0400
Hi Clif,
Sounds like you do have a bit of a services problem. Luckily where I am
there are usually enough police to go around, and any emergency we have had
on our street has been attended by them very promptly.
We had a medical emergency with a neighbour a short while back and fire crew
(with paramedics) , ambulance, and police were all here within three
minutes.
I guess for models security in your area, good steel doors, window bars, and
locks would be the best answer for the model and tools storage area. Maybe
an alarm with video surveillance, flashing lights and a siren might be a
good idea as a tactic to scare off any would be BE artists.
Good luck, Jeff Dayman Waterloo Ontario Canada
----- Original Message -----
From: "Clif Walker" <clif.gwr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 4:40 AM
Subject: [modeleng] Re: stolen engines and equipment
> Hi Jeff and All,
>
> Having an Alarm presupposes that the Police will come.
> More and more these days you hear cases where the Police will not come
> unless you have
> 1 caught the burglars. 2 have got their names,addresses and date of
Birth.
> 3 have got signed confessions, 4 have not infringed their Human Rights to
> carry out their profession as burglars.
> I have listened in to the Police Radio and have heard cases where a shop
has
> actually got someone in with a stolen credit card and the Police will not
> attend as they do not have anybody spare and another case of a burglary
> where the scenes of crime squad would not attend as it was past 5pm.
> I actually had a reason a few years ago to phone 999 and it took the
Police
> one hour to arrive and things now seemed to have got worse .
> People now comment if they actually see a Policeman on foot as they have
> become that rare and seem to spend most of their time flying about in cars
> with the blue lights flashing.
> Where I live in Cornwall it is on record that for the entire district at
the
> bottom end there are never more than 12 Policemen available at a time and
> the area includes four towns.On Sunday mornings it drops to about one as
the
> rest are doing paperwork from Saturday night.
> Here in Cornwall a new policy was brought in of once again having a local
> policeman the cost of which was put on to our Council Tax.
> Our guy started one year ago. I live on the main road and as yet I have
> never seen him on patrol.
> The Police stations also close at night.
> Frankly I felt safer walking around New York at night than I do in most
> English Towns.
>
> Regards
>
> Clif
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeff Dayman" <jeffdayman@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 1:02 AM
> Subject: [modeleng] Re: stolen engines and equipment
>
>
> > An old saying here about guys going into the police is "too lazy to
work,
> > too dumb to steal". ( Bit of levity never hurts.)
> >
> > However, thefts such as these are not the police's fault, and it would
> take
> > an army to patrol everyone's street, several times a night, all over the
> > world.
> >
> > If you have something worth protecting (our models sure are) then I
> believe
> > the onus is on the owner to install a monitored security system,
> preferably
> > with a direct call in feature to local police. With a theft such as this
> of
> > heavy items, the thieves were probably on the premises for some time.
With
> a
> > monitored alarm they surely would have been caught if a silent alarm had
> > called police and their response was even as long as 10 minutes.
> Door/window
> > alarms and motion detectors are usually sufficient, video monitoring is
> > great but very much more expensive.
> >
> > A monitored alarm system is a big investment and another monthly cost,
but
> > the alternative is painful indeed as Mr.Palmer found out. Compared to
the
> > time we spend building, the cost is less significant.
> >
> > I have such a system, and sleep better knowing it, at home or when
> > traveling. We may still experience a break in with it, but it is less
> likely
> > due to the warning signs around the property. Even if we do, chances are
> > good the thieves will be caught red handed and our property will be
> > recovered.
> >
> > Cheers, Jeff Dayman Waterloo Ontario Canada
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bob Logan" <boblogan@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 5:04 PM
> > Subject: [modeleng] Re: stolen engines and equipment
> >
> >
> > > I just don't know why some mothers have those kind of offspring,
> > > do we have enough Mr. Plods about?
> > > Bob L.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "alanjstepney" <alan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 5:09 AM
> > > Subject: [modeleng] stolen engines and equipment
> > >
> > >
> > > > Many of you will know Mike Palmer of Station Road Steam.
> > > > His workshop was broken into, and the following items stolen.
> > > >
> > > > 2 inch scale Durham & North Yorkshire traction engine
> > > >
> > > > 3 1/2 inch gauge 2-6-0 tender engine to LBSC's "Princess Marina"
> design
> > > >
> > > > 3 1/2 inch gauge 0-4-0 tank engine to LBSC's "Juliet" design
> > > >
> > > > 5 inch gauge LNER 6-wheel tender
> > > >
> > > > Plus other tools and equipment.
> > > >
> > > > details at:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.stationroadsteam.com/stolen%2026-8-2004.htm
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > alan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >
> > > > www.alanstepney.info
> > > > Model Engineering, Steam Engine, and Railway technical pages.
> > > >
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> > >
> > >
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