Hi Jeff and All, Having an Alarm presupposes that the Police will come. More and more these days you hear cases where the Police will not come unless you have 1 caught the burglars. 2 have got their names,addresses and date of Birth. 3 have got signed confessions, 4 have not infringed their Human Rights to carry out their profession as burglars. I have listened in to the Police Radio and have heard cases where a shop has actually got someone in with a stolen credit card and the Police will not attend as they do not have anybody spare and another case of a burglary where the scenes of crime squad would not attend as it was past 5pm. I actually had a reason a few years ago to phone 999 and it took the Police one hour to arrive and things now seemed to have got worse . People now comment if they actually see a Policeman on foot as they have become that rare and seem to spend most of their time flying about in cars with the blue lights flashing. Where I live in Cornwall it is on record that for the entire district at the bottom end there are never more than 12 Policemen available at a time and the area includes four towns.On Sunday mornings it drops to about one as the rest are doing paperwork from Saturday night. Here in Cornwall a new policy was brought in of once again having a local policeman the cost of which was put on to our Council Tax. Our guy started one year ago. I live on the main road and as yet I have never seen him on patrol. The Police stations also close at night. Frankly I felt safer walking around New York at night than I do in most English Towns. Regards Clif ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Dayman" <jeffdayman@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 1:02 AM Subject: [modeleng] Re: stolen engines and equipment > An old saying here about guys going into the police is "too lazy to work, > too dumb to steal". ( Bit of levity never hurts.) > > However, thefts such as these are not the police's fault, and it would take > an army to patrol everyone's street, several times a night, all over the > world. > > If you have something worth protecting (our models sure are) then I believe > the onus is on the owner to install a monitored security system, preferably > with a direct call in feature to local police. With a theft such as this of > heavy items, the thieves were probably on the premises for some time. With a > monitored alarm they surely would have been caught if a silent alarm had > called police and their response was even as long as 10 minutes. Door/window > alarms and motion detectors are usually sufficient, video monitoring is > great but very much more expensive. > > A monitored alarm system is a big investment and another monthly cost, but > the alternative is painful indeed as Mr.Palmer found out. Compared to the > time we spend building, the cost is less significant. > > I have such a system, and sleep better knowing it, at home or when > traveling. We may still experience a break in with it, but it is less likely > due to the warning signs around the property. Even if we do, chances are > good the thieves will be caught red handed and our property will be > recovered. > > Cheers, Jeff Dayman Waterloo Ontario Canada > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob Logan" <boblogan@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 5:04 PM > Subject: [modeleng] Re: stolen engines and equipment > > > > I just don't know why some mothers have those kind of offspring, > > do we have enough Mr. Plods about? > > Bob L. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "alanjstepney" <alan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 5:09 AM > > Subject: [modeleng] stolen engines and equipment > > > > > > > Many of you will know Mike Palmer of Station Road Steam. > > > His workshop was broken into, and the following items stolen. > > > > > > 2 inch scale Durham & North Yorkshire traction engine > > > > > > 3 1/2 inch gauge 2-6-0 tender engine to LBSC's "Princess Marina" design > > > > > > 3 1/2 inch gauge 0-4-0 tank engine to LBSC's "Juliet" design > > > > > > 5 inch gauge LNER 6-wheel tender > > > > > > Plus other tools and equipment. > > > > > > details at: > > > > > > http://www.stationroadsteam.com/stolen%2026-8-2004.htm > > > > > > > > > alan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > www.alanstepney.info > > > Model Engineering, Steam Engine, and Railway technical pages. > > > > > > MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. > > > > > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.745 / Virus Database: 497 - Release Date: 27/08/2004 > > MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, > > modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject > line. > > MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, > modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line. 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