Hi Ian The manufacturer's certificate is worth having if you can get hold of it. I would have thought that if you can quote the boiler number, Modelworks should be able to provide a duplicate copy. Some clubs (including my own) will accept the manufacturer's certificate as evidence that a 2x hydraulic test has been carried out, subject to a re-test to 1.5x before the steam test. Regards Ron Head ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pendragon" <idpriest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 10:54 PM Subject: [modeleng] Re: Winson Brit Boiler Cert > Cliff, > > I agree with you regarding testing the boiler at a club, I have made > several boilers ....too many to think of right now and am familier with > the procedure. The intention is to test the Brit boiler, hydraulic and > of course steam, however some clubs like to see boilers in various > stages of manufacture and as this cannot be so with the Brit, the next > best thing would of course be the original cert. > > > With regard to the fella in question from what I have heard there may > well be quite a few people looking for him!!! > > Regards, > > IP > > Priest & Sons Model Engineers > http://www.kinvermes.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/p1.htm > > > -----Original Message----- > From: modeleng-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:modeleng-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Clif Walker > Sent: 27 November 2004 18:00 > To: modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [modeleng] Re: Winson Brit Boiler Cert > > > Hi, > If that fella was the one in Wales who did a runner with several peoples > Winson kits you have no chance. He was supposedly an expert at sorting > out problems with Winson kits but only seemed to sort out his own > Brittania.I know of a guy who took his Jubilee and it came back much the > same as it went. At least he got his loco back. > > I think that if find this bloke a lot of other people would like to meet > him. With regards to the Winson Certificate it is only an Hydraulic Test > .A club inspector is still going to want to do a steam test and you may > as well let the club inspector do an hydraulic test before the boiler is > put onto the frames.It keeps every body happy and I have heard of Winson > Boilers with certificates that leaked like sieves. With my 14XX, I made > two trips from Cornwall to Derby.The first was for an Club Boiler > Hydraulic Test even though I tested it and I also have the Winson > Certificate and the second was for the Club steam test. > > Regards > > Clif > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pendragon" <idpriest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 1:27 PM > Subject: [modeleng] Winson Brit Boiler Cert > > >> Greetings all, >> >> I may have mentioned this before but a friend of mine has a Winsons >> Brit which was assembled by a fella by the name of David James, who >> came from the Swansea area. >> >> Mr James received the kits direct from Winsons and as such my friend >> did not receive the boiler certificate. >> >> If anyone could supply contact details for Mr Jamrs so that my friend >> can make the appropriate enqs re his certificate he would be very >> obliged. >> >> Regards, >> >> IP >> >> Priest & Sons Model Engineers >> HYPERLINK >> "http://www.kinvermes.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/p1.htm"http://www.kinvermes >> .p >> wp.blueyonder.co.uk/p1.htm >> >> --- >> Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >> Version: 6.0.801 / Virus Database: 544 - Release Date: 24/11/2004 >> >> >> >> MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. >> >> To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, >> modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the >> subject > line. > > MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, > modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the > subject line. > > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.801 / Virus Database: 544 - Release Date: 24/11/2004 > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.801 / Virus Database: 544 - Release Date: 24/11/2004 > > > MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, > modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject > line. MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.