Everybody busy in the workshop? No Mike, I think it's just quiet. > > JohnP Well TEL down in Oz is supposedly fast asleep right now so we can make all sorts of insults about him and he can't defend himself until he gets up tomorrow. At least it is warm where he is which it sure ain't here in Troy, Tennessee where it is 11° F or minus 11.6° C! Jesse in more than chilly Tennessee MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.