Hi keith Which bend are you trying to make, the tight one into the wet header or are you trying to make the spear point? Stainless steel tube is what you want for super heaters and the spear point should be TIG welded. You can silver the tube into the wet header. Save your effort though and buy one from Paul Gammon Technical Services. I believe Blackgates and Polly may be agents. There are a lot of arugments about wether they actually do anything. If you want my opinion then on a loco that is worked hard passenger hauling then they are worth having giving drier exhaust and much freer running. Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: <Gmx22@xxxxxxx> To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 10:44 PM Subject: [modeleng] Superheater trouble Hi all, I don't normally write much here but do read with interest most of your comments. I am getting on well with a simplex but can't seem to get the super heater right. The people I have spoken to have two schools of thought. 1 because it has slide valves Don't use a radiant one something to do with wet steam being better. make it out of copper. I have just come in from the garage having turned another peace of copper tube into scrap, lots of heating and i just can't get the tight bend required to make it look neat. Other school of thought is make it radiant using stainless and use thinner tubing 22g I think. any thoughts on how to bent copper tube or where the hell do I get stainless from, tried GLR and the guys a Polly. I have seen lots of super heaters made out of SS and look neat with perfect bends but nobody can tell me where they got the stuff. I have a tube bender but the radius is not small enough and of course it is metric 10mm and I am using 7/16 18g copper......... well I was! I know you will probably think how has he got this far if he can't bend copper tube but things have gone very well up to this point, I just can't afford to keep throwing copper in the bin. Great site keep up the good work Keith MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line. MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.