Mike Leahy may see this and respond, but if not, his article in ME gave a lot of useful information. If you dont have it, I will look out the issue number. Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: "R.L. Roebuck" <rlr20@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 12:34 PM Subject: [modeleng] Second hand boilers Hi there All, Does anyone know what the position is regaurding second hand boilers, in as much as:- *If I buy a second hand loco and it has no boiler paperwork, and is not professionally made, but it looks okay (I agree this is no gaurantee that it wont fail a boiler test); has been used prior to the new regulations, but I have no way of prooving this, will I be able to get my club to give it a boiler certificate? ALSO * I instead I buy the loco from a second hand loco dealer, who has bought the loco under the same similar circumstances, but then tests the boiler and issues it with a certificate to say it has had a steam and hydraulic test; where will I stand as far as a club boiler tester is concerned, will they refuse to issue it with a Northern or Southern fed boiler certificate? Yours, Rich. MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.2/139 - Release Date: 17/10/2005 MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.