I would put about an inch of sand, just damp, over a concrete floor. The best foundry I saw, had a dirt floor, and the foundry that I started my apprenticeship, ( that nearly killed me,) had a deep sand floor, I did get to dig about eight foot deep, doing a Propellor for a steam ship, circa, 1950. Charles, Jesse, I never had problems of "bedding in" 'Boxes,' on a sand floor, as you place 'box' down, wiggle and rotate, left & right, untill you get 'box' level and down in sand. Before iron ( bronze, alloys, ) is poured, clamp 'boxes' or put weights on clear of " pour gate." The Book, should be in all good district Public Libraries. My local library has two well thumbed copies. Bob. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles & Dorothy Brumbelow" <cbrumbelow@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 12:47 AM Subject: [modeleng] Casting Questions > First - > > All "the books" say one should not set up to melt and pour aluminum or other > high melting temperature metals on a concrete floor, because when (not if) > there is a spill the moisture within the concrete will turn to steam with > explosive force, sending shrapnel flying. > > A sand working area is recommended. > > What happens if the sand is damp and molten metal is spilled on it? > > Second - > > When the mold ready for pouring is being moved from the bench where it was > rammed up to the place where the metal will be poured, should it be carried > on and later set on top of a board to keep the rammed sand from falling out > or getting collapsed by irregularities in the sand floor? This would be a > board such as is used when the cope or drag is being flipped for pattern > removal. > > Thanks, Charles -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.8 - Release Date: 10/05/2005 MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.