thanks Tim the main point , that i was thinking of was more of keeping the port face horizontal & 90 deg in regard to looking from the end face in relation to the bore centre line , but yes i understand what you meant Tim . Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Kirby" <trk@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 3:04 PM Subject: [modeleng] Re: ALERT!! IMPORTANT!! and PS about Model Engineer > On 10/20/07 4:05 AM, "Dud.One" <dud.one@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> on another point , i am building a Rob Roy as my first Loco and i have >> come to >> the point of the castings for the cylinders , how do you get a reference >> for >> the steam chest centre line and the fact of making the port face >> tangental to >> the cylinder bore . > > I don't think you want to make the port face tangential, if I remember > Rob Roy cylinders correctly :) - you want the port face and bore to be > parallel. > > Exactly how you achieve this is going to depend somewhat on the tooling > you > have available, but in terms of machining personally, I would look to > machining the port face first to give you a datum to work from. The > casting > should be pretty square, so you shouldn't be taking wildly different > thicknesses of material when you do that work. Once you have that surface > to > work from you can then mount against that face and bore the cylinder; with > a > bore to work from you can mount the cylinder on a mandrel and square the > ends... though, as I said, how you do this may vary depending on whether > you > are doing this with a traditional lathe or if you are in posession of some > piece of multi-axis CNC machining center. I've never built with one of the > latter; the techiques might be very different... > > Alternatively you could probably try and cut the bore first, then square > the ends to the bore and use the ends as your datum and then cut the port > face from them, but I think the former order would be easier. > >> may be a dead easy question for you guys , but i don't want to screw them >> up > > Knowing the right way to do it isn't going to guarantee you don't screw > them > up, Dave :) Just remember to make sure that your castings are securely > mounted when you machine them. There is little as distressing as having > put > many hours into a casting only to have it move and mangle itself... > > Tim > -- > Tim Kirby trk@xxxxxxxxxx > > > MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, > modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject > line. MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.