Ksounds is either Steinway or kawai, depending on which volume you have. -- Damon Fibraio screen names -- aol: dfibraio...msn dfibraio@xxxxxxxxxxxx skype: dfibraio personal music site: http://www.keyboardguy.com. Band web site: http://www.thdband.com, myspace http://www.myspace.com/thdtheband -----Original Message----- From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Goldfingas Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:04 AM To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [MoAccess] New drums coming from Yamaha Ok ok, I get the point. Lol. Well they sure as hell need to sample drums from another company then. Maybe DW or someone like that. I am not feeling the factory drums now. I kind of thought about that after I wrote it. How they are the only company with a real cp and no one else really does that right. I wonder what brand piano the KSounds one is? Maybe Steinway? Hmmm, anyway... GF -----Original Message----- From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bryan Smart Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 4:54 PM To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [MoAccess] New drums coming from Yamaha What do you mean about Yamaha not sampling their own pianos? That is where the piano sounds in the Motif come from. The main Motif XS piano sample is from a Yamaha CF series concert grand. Unfortunately, that is kind of a bright piano for general use, but I suppose that they were aiming this at the classical crowd first. The S90ES piano, the one that has an XS version in the new XSpanded bank I uploaded is a Yamaha S700 piano. The S700 is sort of a strange piano, since there isn't a real Yamaha S700 piano for sale. The S700 is a piano that was specifically designed for sampling. Details are sketchy on this, but supposedly Yamaha built a piano where the piano keys could be mechanically triggered by another device at specific velocity levels. The project supposedly cost Yamaha over $250,000. Supposedly, this is why the sample switching between velocity levels and key ranges is so smooth on that piano. I'm not sure how the CF piano was recorded, but they probably had a human player operating keys. The CP70 electric grand is a sample from a Yamaha CP70 piano, but the detail of sampling in the CP70 voices doesn't even approach the level of attention that was paid to the acoustic pianos. Still, that's a Yamaha instrument, also. Anyhow, the Motif pianos are all real Yamaha pianos. Most of the other instruments in the Motif come from Yamaha instruments, also. Whether you like the tone of any particular instrument or not is a matter of personal taste. Yamaha is certainly a Unique company in this regard. Korg, Roland, and Kurzweil all built their keyboard voices through a mix of sampling instruments on their own and licensing recordings from other companies. In most cases, the instrument voices in the Motif are produced from samples made by Yamaha, of instruments that were built by Yamaha. I think that is one big reason why the Motif is still king of the workstation keyboards when it comes to imitating the sound of real instruments. Bryan -----Original Message----- From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Goldfingas Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 8:22 PM To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [MoAccess] New drums coming from Yamaha They did give us the plg 150 dr, and pc cards. Those had the drums from the tyros and they were a bit different. And the did come out with some sample banks that weren't all that good at all. I have demos of them to prove it. Damon and I both cringed at them. But I hope the can put something cool out. After all, they do make drum kits for real and why not mic one of their own up and sample it. Guess that's not saying much either, they make pianos and how many sounds do you hear that say Yamaha studio grand or anything like that. Lol GF -----Original Message----- From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bryan Smart Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 12:49 PM To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [MoAccess] New drums coming from Yamaha Hey, don't be too negative. After all, when is the last time that we got a new acoustic kit for the Motif from Yamaha? I don't think that they've added any new acoustic kits since the original Motif. There were little touches added in the XS, like the toms having multiple layers, but no new kits. I think that the drums are the area of the Motif that has changed the least since it was originally released. Bryan -----Original Message----- From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Goldfingas Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 8:32 AM To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [MoAccess] New drums coming from Yamaha They won't be, they usually aren't. Don't get your hopes up. -----Original Message----- From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Damon Fibraio Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 10:33 PM To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [MoAccess] New drums coming from Yamaha Wow. We really need new rock drums for the motif, so I hope these are good. -- Damon Fibraio screen names -- aol: dfibraio...msn dfibraio@xxxxxxxxxxxx skype: dfibraio personal music site: http://www.keyboardguy.com. Band web site: http://www.thdband.com, myspace http://www.myspace.com/thdtheband From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bryan Smart Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 10:25 PM To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [MoAccess] New drums coming from Yamaha Over on Motifator, there has been an announcement that Yamaha will be releasing new drum voices to complement the new instrument voices for the XS. There will be new multi-sampled acoustic drums, including a new oak kit and new power kit. There aren't many details on the electronic drums that will be included, but we've been told to expect new hip hop kits. The set will also feature new percussion kits, including ethnic percussion. I've recently been working on the final touches of a complete setup package for those of you that are working with either Sonar or QWS as an accessible computer-based sequencer. I know that there is a lot of setup involved when someone first gets a Motif in order to get everything synced up and running with the computer, so I'll be posting setup instructions, Sonar and QWS instrument definitions for the XS, and Motif mix dump request macros so that you can save Motif mix changes as part of your Sonar projects. Most importantly, I'll post a new all file that includes all of the new XS instrument and drum voices plus is preconfigured to work in Sonar. You'll need to install the XS USB or mLAN driver on your computer, and will need to perform some basic setup in Sonar, but, as far as the Motif, you'll just need to turn it on, load this all file, and you'll be ready to sequence with Sonar and all of the new voices from Yamaha. 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