Re: [MoAccess] New drums coming from Yamaha
- From: Daniel R <djdan567@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 09:55:55 -0500
i believe they are Clarence. The KSounds came from Steinway. Those
pianos never cease to amaze me!!!
On 3/4/09, Goldfingas <goldfingas@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> Ok ok, I get the point. Lol. Well they sure as hell need to sample drums
> from another company then. Maybe DW or someone like that. I am not feeling
> the factory drums now. I kind of thought about that after I wrote it. How
> they are the only company with a real cp and no one else really does that
> right.
> I wonder what brand piano the KSounds one is? Maybe Steinway?
> Hmmm, anyway...
>
> GF
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Bryan Smart
> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 4:54 PM
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> Subject: Re: [MoAccess] New drums coming from Yamaha
>
> What do you mean about Yamaha not sampling their own pianos? That is where
> the piano sounds in the Motif come from.
>
> The main Motif XS piano sample is from a Yamaha CF series concert grand.
> Unfortunately, that is kind of a bright piano for general use, but I suppose
> that they were aiming this at the classical crowd first.
>
> The S90ES piano, the one that has an XS version in the new XSpanded bank I
> uploaded is a Yamaha S700 piano. The S700 is sort of a strange piano, since
> there isn't a real Yamaha S700 piano for sale. The S700 is a piano that was
> specifically designed for sampling. Details are sketchy on this, but
> supposedly Yamaha built a piano where the piano keys could be mechanically
> triggered by another device at specific velocity levels.
> The project supposedly cost Yamaha over $250,000. Supposedly, this is why
> the sample switching between velocity levels and key ranges is so smooth on
> that piano. I'm not sure how the CF piano was recorded, but they probably
> had a human player operating keys.
>
> The CP70 electric grand is a sample from a Yamaha CP70 piano, but the detail
> of sampling in the CP70 voices doesn't even approach the level of attention
> that was paid to the acoustic pianos. Still, that's a Yamaha instrument,
> also.
>
> Anyhow, the Motif pianos are all real Yamaha pianos. Most of the other
> instruments in the Motif come from Yamaha instruments, also. Whether you
> like the tone of any particular instrument or not is a matter of personal
> taste. Yamaha is certainly a Unique company in this regard.
> Korg, Roland, and Kurzweil all built their keyboard voices through a mix of
> sampling instruments on their own and licensing recordings from other
> companies. In most cases, the instrument voices in the Motif are produced
> from samples made by Yamaha, of instruments that were built by Yamaha. I
> think that is one big reason why the Motif is still king of the workstation
> keyboards when it comes to imitating the sound of real instruments.
>
> Bryan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Goldfingas
> Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 8:22 PM
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> Subject: Re: [MoAccess] New drums coming from Yamaha
>
> They did give us the plg 150 dr, and pc cards. Those had the drums from the
> tyros and they were a bit different. And the did come out with some sample
> banks that weren't all that good at all. I have demos of them to prove it.
> Damon and I both cringed at them. But I hope the can put something cool out.
> After all, they do make drum kits for real and why not mic one of their own
> up and sample it. Guess that's not saying much either, they make pianos and
> how many sounds do you hear that say Yamaha studio grand or anything like
> that. Lol
>
> GF
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of Bryan Smart
> Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 12:49 PM
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> Subject: Re: [MoAccess] New drums coming from Yamaha
>
> Hey, don't be too negative. After all, when is the last time that we got a
> new acoustic kit for the Motif from Yamaha? I don't think that they've added
> any new acoustic kits since the original Motif. There were little touches
> added in the XS, like the toms having multiple layers, but no new kits.
> I
> think that the drums are the area of the Motif that has changed the least
> since it was originally released.
>
> Bryan
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Goldfingas
> Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 8:32 AM
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>
> They won't be, they usually aren't. Don't get your hopes up.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of Damon Fibraio
> Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 10:33 PM
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> Subject: Re: [MoAccess] New drums coming from Yamaha
>
> Wow. We really need new rock drums for the motif, so I hope these are good.
>
>
>
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> From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Bryan Smart
> Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 10:25 PM
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> Subject: [MoAccess] New drums coming from Yamaha
>
>
>
> Over on Motifator, there has been an announcement that Yamaha will be
> releasing new drum voices to complement the new instrument voices for the
> XS. There will be new multi-sampled acoustic drums, including a new oak kit
> and new power kit. There aren't many details on the electronic drums that
> will be included, but we've been told to expect new hip hop kits. The set
> will also feature new percussion kits, including ethnic percussion.
>
>
>
> I've recently been working on the final touches of a complete setup package
> for those of you that are working with either Sonar or QWS as an accessible
> computer-based sequencer. I know that there is a lot of setup involved when
> someone first gets a Motif in order to get everything synced up and running
> with the computer, so I'll be posting setup instructions, Sonar and QWS
> instrument definitions for the XS, and Motif mix dump request macros so that
> you can save Motif mix changes as part of your Sonar projects. Most
> importantly, I'll post a new all file that includes all of the new XS
> instrument and drum voices plus is preconfigured to work in Sonar.
> You'll
> need to install the XS USB or mLAN driver on your computer, and will need to
> perform some basic setup in Sonar, but, as far as the Motif, you'll just
> need to turn it on, load this all file, and you'll be ready to sequence with
> Sonar and all of the new voices from Yamaha.
>
>
>
> Bryan
>
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