Re: [MoAccess] MoAccess, was Sonar, Motif XS, and MIDI

  • From: "Goldfingas" <goldfingas@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 17:43:50 -0500

Yes, I have a tr rack, its cool. It has most of the same stuff as what Jose
is getting rid of, just in a rack. I want the karma for the arps and the
board its self. It has the feel like the motif ES.

-----Original Message-----
From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Daniel R
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 4:44 PM
To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [MoAccess] MoAccess, was Sonar, Motif XS, and MIDI

Clarence, you have a TR Rack? Wow. How is it? I'd trade, but I hardly have
anything.

On 3/6/09, Goldfingas <goldfingas@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> Korg tr rack? Roland rs5, Roland vs 8 80? I don't know, what are you 
> looking for?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Jose
> Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 2:39 PM
> To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [MoAccess] MoAccess, was Sonar, Motif XS, and MIDI
>
> Sorry.  Well, if it's any consolation, it hasn't actually sold.  One 
> guy expressed interest, but didn't come see it.  Do you have any thing 
> laying around that I might be interested in for trading purposes?  
> It'd be hard though cause I need cash!
>
> Jose
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Goldfingas
> Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 1:49 PM
> To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [MoAccess] MoAccess, was Sonar, Motif XS, and MIDI
>
> You suck! I wanted one so bad! Oh well...
>
> GF
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Jose
> Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 10:43 AM
> To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [MoAccess] MoAccess, was Sonar, Motif XS, and MIDI
>
> It's on Craig's list right now!  Don't get me wrong, that Karma board 
> has made me tons of money both in arrangements and live performances.  
> However, it's the last meaningful Korg board that doesn't have a touch
screen.
>
> Jose
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Goldfingas
> Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 8:56 AM
> To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [MoAccess] MoAccess, was Sonar, Motif XS, and MIDI
>
> Can I have your karma then?
> I have always wanted one.
>
> GF
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Jose Abreu
> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 9:50 PM
> To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [MoAccess] MoAccess, was Sonar, Motif XS, and MIDI
>
> Well, actually, I'm not having that problem anymore cause I'll just 
> not use track one in Sonar.  I love the Motif XS.  When the ES came 
> out, I learned it was much more accessible than the Korg boards, but, 
> to be honest, I was not sold on the sounds.  For Latin sequences, I 
> still very much preferred the Korg sounds on the Karma.  However, that 
> is no longer true with the release of the XS.  The XS blows Korg out 
> of the water, and out of my band and my studio for good.
>
> A huge thanks to those of you who came before me, and are opening the way.
> Special mention to Damon for sharing his knowledge directly with me, 
> and, patiently, answering some of my idiotic questions, like how to 
> load a sound file.  I will try to help out when I can as I am now 
> fully sold on the XS and will put a lot of time into it.  I'll try to 
> put together some other notes like the file mode notes I sent recently.
>
> Jose
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Bryan Smart
> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 7:21 PM
> To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [MoAccess] MoAccess, was Sonar, Motif XS, and MIDI
>
> Sorry that you're having problems. There are many settings to work 
> out, for sure.
>
> Very soon, I will be releasing a complete setup package for using the 
> Motif with Sonar, both for basic MIDI sequencing for those of you that 
> have USB connections, as well as a fully integrated all-digital 
> multi-bus setup for those of you that have mLAN.
>
> I know that the Motif has been out for almost two years now, and, for 
> a while, it has seemed like the ES is the board with superior
accessibility.
> This is because a lot of the XS benefits have been slow in coming due 
> to the many pieces that have been involved, and the nothing that 
> myself and those that have helped me make for doing all of this work 
> to simplify the process for those of you that aren't so techy.
>
> Before anything could be done, we needed good access to many Motif XS 
> capabilities. We needed good documentation on the Motif XS, and how to 
> get around its control panels. We needed to get a good stable PC-based 
> editor for allowing us to remote control many of its functions 
> (including the Jaws scripts). We needed Yamaha to make some basic 
> changes in the firmware that have gradually made these other goals 
> possible (fixing bugs that prevented editor functions from working, 
> adding keyboard support so that we can actually type filenames when
saving, etc).
>
> To use the Motif XS as part of a larger accessible studio on a PC, we 
> needed to accomplish other goals. The mLAN drivers didn't work so well 
> with Sonar in the early days, and we had to wait for those problems to be
sorted out.
> Of course, the editors are a big part of working in Sonar, since they 
> control the Motif mixing functions. Also, accessibility in Sonar 
> itself has come quite a long way in the last two years, particularly 
> with the enhancements to CakeTalking. Sonar 8, with its features, 
> external inserts in particular, will make working with the Motif XS a 
> lot like using a softsynth. You Sonar users will be able to sequence 
> in Sonar and have your creations rendered from start to finish in 
> complete digital form without having to manually record in track after 
> track of sequenced MIDI data from the Motif to audio tracks.
>
> Many advanced users have put their toes in to some of these areas, 
> some trying mLAN, others using the editors. However, I don't know any 
> blind people that are using the full system as intended. Even those 
> that are trail blazers must put up with lots of configuration 
> headaches together with trial and error. That will change very soon. 
> We are reaching the point where the pieces are finally coming together.
>
> When I started out creating electronic music 15 years ago, I didn't 
> know other blind people that were doing what I was doing. I bought a 
> lot of crap gear, memorized many screens, and frustrated myself beyond 
> description. The only good thing that came of all that is that I 
> learned these techniques for memorizing gear and, of course, got my 
> MIDI-knight black belt. My intension from the beginning with MoAccess 
> has been to make the Motif for all of you, what it has been for me, a 
> wonderful instrument that helped me create music instead of mess with 
> lots of equipment. I think that this is particularly important for 
> blind people, since, not only do most of us have no idea what the 
> cryptic configuration options mean, but we have the added disadvantage 
> that we are unable to see the screens on the gear to read the cryptic
configuration options.
>
> Hopefully, the Motif XS can replace the old Kurzweils in peoples' 
> minds as the accessible workstation. It already has been, but most 
> people just don't understand it yet.
>
> Anyway, when is the question. The answer is 1-2 weeks. I'm going to 
> CSUN this year, and I'd like to be able to talk this stuff up when I'm
there.
> I really hope that Yamaha releases their drum voices by then, as I'd 
> like to include them in some all files that I've built, but that part 
> is completely out of my control. Still, it is a small little piece.
>
> Bryan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jose Abreu
> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 7:31 PM
> To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Sonar, Motif XS, and midi.
>
> Well, I solved my problem, but there's still an academic question out
there.
> I moved the piano in track 1 of Sonar to another track, 13, and 
> assigned it to midi channel 1.  It now responds to the volume control.  
> So, the problem is not on midi channel 1, but rather on Sonar's track 
> 1.  At this point it's academic, I will just not use track 1, but I do
still wonder why this is.
>
> Jose
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Bryan Smart
> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 9:26 AM
> To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Sonar, Motif XS, and midi.
>
> Cable from computer to keyboard. Must first download Yamaha Universal 
> MIDI driver from YamahaSynth.com, but is easy setup.
>
> mLAN does the same thing over a Firewire cable, but also provides 11 
> stereo (or 22 mono) channels of digital I/O for routing audio in to, 
> or out of, DAW apps like Sonar.
>
> Bryan
>
> Bryan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jose
> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 9:55 AM
> To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Sonar, Motif XS, and midi.
>
> So, to use the USB connection instead of midi, I can just connect a 
> cable from the computer to the keyboard, or do I need the optional lan
adaptor?
>
> Jose
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Goldfingas
> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 9:49 AM
> To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Sonar, Motif XS, and midi.
>
> With USB, you are abler to do more than just midi, you can also use 
> the remote functions and coming soon, even more. I think there are 3 
> ports that the USB uses... I forget what they all do though. I know 
> that a is midi, one is remote, and I forget what that other is at the 
> moment. Maybe Smart can chime in here and back me up?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Omar Binno
> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 1:02 PM
> To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Sonar, Motif XS, and midi.
>
> I was wrong then about the insertion fx. I do remember though that it 
> was discussed on here a while ago how USB connection has advantages over
MIDI.
> Yes, no?
>
>
> Omar Binno
>
> AIM: LOD1116
> Skype: obinno1
> Website: www.omarbinno.com
>
>       ----- Original Message -----
>       From: Bryan Smart <mailto:bryansmart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>       To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>       Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 12:24 PM
>       Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Sonar, Motif XS, and midi.
>
>
>       Really? I'm not sure how this can be. MIDI doesn't have anything to 
> do with if the Motif uses its insert effects processors or not, as far 
> as I know.
>
>       
>
>       Bryan
>
>       
>
>       From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Omar Binno
>       Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:08 AM
>       To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>       Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Sonar, Motif XS, and midi.
>
>       
>
>       When you use the motif via midi through sonar, you lose the
insertion 
> fx that you have on the first 8 tracks of a project. If you use it 
> through USB, you can get those fx and it sounds alot nicer. I'm not 
> sure if that would fix the problem you're currently having, but just 
> thought i'd pass that bit of info along.
>
>       
>
>       
>
>       Omar Binno
>
>       
>
>       AIM: LOD1116
>       Skype: obinno1
>       Website: www.omarbinno.com
>
>               ----- Original Message -----
>
>               From: Jose <mailto:Jose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>               To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>               Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:03 AM
>
>               Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Sonar, Motif XS, and midi.
>
>               
>
>               There's no real reason, except this is the set up I've had
for a 
> while.  I only use the connection to create sequences in Sonar using 
> the XS, and to record sequences from sonar into the XS using the 
> record all tracks function.  I only change my set up once every 5 or so
years.
> Once
> I'm confortable with a set up, I don't like to change it, even if 
> it's, potentially, for the better.  For example, I still use a Layla20
sound card.
> It records at a lower resolution than many more modern cards, like the 
> Layla24, and a more recent Echoaudio card called Audiofire.  However, 
> this set up works fine for me, and I don't spend have of my studio 
> time fixing connection problems.  I do have a p4 computer, not a
comodor64!
> However, I
> don't have a dual or quad core computer cause, once again, mine works
fine.
>
>               
>
>               Jose
>
>               
>
>               From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Omar Binno
>               Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 8:43 AM
>               To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>               Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Sonar, Motif XS, and midi.
>
>               
>
>               I'm just curious: why are you connecting your motif via Midi
rather 
> than USB?
>
>               
>
>               
>
>               Omar Binno
>
>               
>
>               AIM: LOD1116
>               Skype: obinno1
>               Website: www.omarbinno.com
>
>                       ----- Original Message -----
>
>                       From: Jose <mailto:Jose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>                       To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>                       Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 8:23 AM
>
>                       Subject: [MoAccess] Sonar, Motif XS, and midi.
>
>                       
>
>                       Why doesn't my XS listen to the Sonar volume setting
on midi 
> channel 1?  I
>                       have my XS connected to my computer via midi through
my Layla sound 
> card.
>                       In song mode, the volume on channel 1 is always at
the highest 
> level (127).
>                       It won't change.  The volume for all of the other
channels change 
> as I
>                       adjust them in Sonar.  I use Sonar 2.2.  Yes, that's
right, 2.2.  
> It works
>                       fine for me.  I have dealt with this in the past by
simply setting 
> the
>                       keyboard not to receive control data, and creating
templates on the 
> keyboard
>                       with the settings I want.  However, I'm curious to
know why this is
>                       happening.  I remember it also happening with my
Yamaha S80.  I 
> dealt with
>                       the problem the same way.  I don't think it happens
with the Karma, 
> but I
>                       don't remember because, with the Karma, I always
disabled control 
> data
>                       without even checking if this was a problem.
> Thanks.
>                       
>                       Jose.
>                       
>                       
>                       For links to all Motif info for blind owners, visit 
> www.MoAccess.info.
>                       To change your list options and view archives for
the MoAccess 
> list, visit www.freelists.org/list/moaccess.
>
>
>
> For links to all Motif info for blind owners, visit www.MoAccess.info.
> To change your list options and view archives for the MoAccess list, 
> visit www.freelists.org/list/moaccess.
>
>
> For links to all Motif info for blind owners, visit www.MoAccess.info.
> To change your list options and view archives for the MoAccess list, 
> visit www.freelists.org/list/moaccess.
>
> For links to all Motif info for blind owners, visit www.MoAccess.info.
> To change your list options and view archives for the MoAccess list, 
> visit www.freelists.org/list/moaccess.
>
>
>
> For links to all Motif info for blind owners, visit www.MoAccess.info.
> To change your list options and view archives for the MoAccess list, 
> visit www.freelists.org/list/moaccess.
>
> For links to all Motif info for blind owners, visit www.MoAccess.info.
> To change your list options and view archives for the MoAccess list, 
> visit www.freelists.org/list/moaccess.
>
>
>
> For links to all Motif info for blind owners, visit www.MoAccess.info.
> To change your list options and view archives for the MoAccess list, 
> visit www.freelists.org/list/moaccess.
>
>
> For links to all Motif info for blind owners, visit www.MoAccess.info.
> To change your list options and view archives for the MoAccess list, 
> visit www.freelists.org/list/moaccess.
>
>
> For links to all Motif info for blind owners, visit www.MoAccess.info.
> To change your list options and view archives for the MoAccess list, 
> visit www.freelists.org/list/moaccess.
>
>
> For links to all Motif info for blind owners, visit www.MoAccess.info.
> To change your list options and view archives for the MoAccess list, 
> visit www.freelists.org/list/moaccess.
>
>
> For links to all Motif info for blind owners, visit www.MoAccess.info.
> To change your list options and view archives for the MoAccess list, 
> visit www.freelists.org/list/moaccess.
>
>
> For links to all Motif info for blind owners, visit www.MoAccess.info.
> To change your list options and view archives for the MoAccess list, 
> visit www.freelists.org/list/moaccess.
>


--
Daniel C Romero
Paterson New Jersey
Website: http://danrmusic.no-ip.org
Sprint Cell Phone: 973-955-6955
AT&T Cell Phone: 973-330-2036
MSN messenger/E-mail:
djdan567@xxxxxxxxx
Aim: RadioDJ246
Skype: radiodj246
myspace:
http://myspace.com/south_park246
Artist Myspace:
http://www.myspace.com/babymoiydannyboy

For links to all Motif info for blind owners, visit www.MoAccess.info.
To change your list options and view archives for the MoAccess list, visit
www.freelists.org/list/moaccess.


For links to all Motif info for blind owners, visit www.MoAccess.info.
To change your list options and view archives for the MoAccess list, visit 
www.freelists.org/list/moaccess.

Other related posts:

  1. Home
  2. moaccess
  3. Archive
  4. 03-2009