Re: [MoAccess] Fw: motif xs tutoreal.
- From: lui chee chau <lcheechau@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 18:03:19 -0800 (PST)
hi, thanks for your reply.
chee Chau.
--- On Sat, 3/7/09, Bryan Smart <bryansmart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> From: Bryan Smart <bryansmart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Fw: motif xs tutoreal.
> To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Saturday, March 7, 2009, 10:29 AM
> John lists his prices on his web page. You can find his web
> page in the
> Links section of MoAccess.
>
> The scripts are $15.
>
> Bryan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of lui
> chee chau
> Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 4:44 PM
> To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Fw: motif xs tutoreal.
>
>
> hi, many thanks for your reply, and my apolajise for not
> being very
> detail. i am new to this list, and so please forgive me
> for more
> question that i may ask, smile. i will go to the link that
> you give in
> this email. can any one tell me, how much is the cost for
> the john
> melas mo access and also the sckripts for it? many thanks
> again for
> your help.
> regards.
>
> chee chau.
>
>
>
> --- On Sat, 3/7/09, Jose <Jose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> > From: Jose <Jose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Fw: motif xs tutoreal.
> > To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Date: Saturday, March 7, 2009, 4:56 AM
> > I'm assuming you forwarded this because you
> didn't
> > get a reply. I'm
> > speaking for myself here. I didn't reply because
> I
> > didn't think you were
> > specific enough. There is a Motif XS button layout
> > document on the MoAccess
> > web site. There are also some tutorials. You can get
> to
> > the MoAccess web
> > site by clicking the link below:
> >
> > HTTP://moaccess.info
> >
> > Once there, there's a list of links. One of them
> is to
> > the button layout.
> >
> > Jose
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > On Behalf Of lui chee chau
> > Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 3:52 PM
> > To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [MoAccess] Fw: motif xs tutoreal.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Fri, 3/6/09, lui chee chau
> > <lcheechau@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > From: lui chee chau <lcheechau@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > Subject: motif xs tutoreal.
> > > To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 10:13 AM
> > > hi, i heard before, some one did a tutoreal on
> motif
> > xs, i
> > > believe it is about the key layout or some thing
> like
> > that.
> > > is it still on the moaccess webside? how do i
> access
> > it?
> > > many thanks.
> > >
> > > Chee Chau.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Fri, 3/6/09, Jose Abreu
> > <jose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > From: Jose Abreu
> <jose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Subject: Re: [MoAccess] MoAccess, was Sonar,
> > Motif XS,
> > > and MIDI
> > > > To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 10:50 AM
> > > > Well, actually, I'm not having that
> problem
> > > anymore
> > > > cause I'll just not use
> > > > track one in Sonar. I love the Motif XS.
> When
> > the ES
> > > came
> > > > out, I learned
> > > > it was much more accessible than the Korg
> boards,
> > but,
> > > to
> > > > be honest, I was
> > > > not sold on the sounds. For Latin
> sequences, I
> > still
> > > very
> > > > much preferred
> > > > the Korg sounds on the Karma. However, that
> is
> > no
> > > longer
> > > > true with the
> > > > release of the XS. The XS blows Korg out of
> the
> > > water, and
> > > > out of my band
> > > > and my studio for good.
> > > >
> > > > A huge thanks to those of you who came
> before me,
> > and
> > > are
> > > > opening the way.
> > > > Special mention to Damon for sharing his
> > knowledge
> > > directly
> > > > with me, and,
> > > > patiently, answering some of my idiotic
> > questions,
> > > like how
> > > > to load a sound
> > > > file. I will try to help out when I can as
> I am
> > now
> > > fully
> > > > sold on the XS
> > > > and will put a lot of time into it.
> I'll try
> > to
> > > put
> > > > together some other
> > > > notes like the file mode notes I sent
> recently.
> > > >
> > > > Jose
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > On Behalf Of Bryan Smart
> > > > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 7:21 PM
> > > > To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: [MoAccess] MoAccess, was Sonar,
> Motif
> > XS, and
> > > MIDI
> > > >
> > > > Sorry that you're having problems. There
> are
> > many
> > > > settings to work out,
> > > > for sure.
> > > >
> > > > Very soon, I will be releasing a complete
> setup
> > > package for
> > > > using the
> > > > Motif with Sonar, both for basic MIDI
> sequencing
> > for
> > > those
> > > > of you that
> > > > have USB connections, as well as a fully
> > integrated
> > > > all-digital
> > > > multi-bus setup for those of you that have
> mLAN.
> > > >
> > > > I know that the Motif has been out for
> almost two
> > > years
> > > > now, and, for a
> > > > while, it has seemed like the ES is the
> board
> > with
> > > superior
> > > > accessibility. This is because a lot of the
> XS
> > > benefits
> > > > have been slow
> > > > in coming due to the many pieces that have
> been
> > > involved,
> > > > and the
> > > > nothing that myself and those that have
> helped me
> > make
> > > for
> > > > doing all of
> > > > this work to simplify the process for those
> of
> > you
> > > that
> > > > aren't so techy.
> > > >
> > > > Before anything could be done, we needed
> good
> > access
> > > to
> > > > many Motif XS
> > > > capabilities. We needed good documentation
> on the
> > > Motif XS,
> > > > and how to
> > > > get around its control panels. We needed to
> get a
> > good
> > > > stable PC-based
> > > > editor for allowing us to remote control
> many of
> > its
> > > > functions
> > > > (including the Jaws scripts). We needed
> Yamaha to
> > make
> > > some
> > > > basic
> > > > changes in the firmware that have gradually
> made
> > these
> > > > other goals
> > > > possible (fixing bugs that prevented editor
> > functions
> > > from
> > > > working,
> > > > adding keyboard support so that we can
> actually
> > type
> > > > filenames when
> > > > saving, etc).
> > > >
> > > > To use the Motif XS as part of a larger
> > accessible
> > > studio
> > > > on a PC, we
> > > > needed to accomplish other goals. The mLAN
> > drivers
> > > > didn't work so well
> > > > with Sonar in the early days, and we had to
> wait
> > for
> > > those
> > > > problems to
> > > > be sorted out. Of course, the editors are a
> big
> > part
> > > of
> > > > working in
> > > > Sonar, since they control the Motif mixing
> > functions.
> > > Also,
> > > > accessibility in Sonar itself has come quite
> a
> > long
> > > way in
> > > > the last two
> > > > years, particularly with the enhancements to
> > > CakeTalking.
> > > > Sonar 8, with
> > > > its features, external inserts in
> particular,
> > will
> > > make
> > > > working with the
> > > > Motif XS a lot like using a softsynth. You
> Sonar
> > users
> > > will
> > > > be able to
> > > > sequence in Sonar and have your creations
> > rendered
> > > from
> > > > start to finish
> > > > in complete digital form without having to
> > manually
> > > record
> > > > in track
> > > > after track of sequenced MIDI data from the
> Motif
> > to
> > > audio
> > > > tracks.
> > > >
> > > > Many advanced users have put their toes in
> to
> > some of
> > > these
> > > > areas, some
> > > > trying mLAN, others using the editors.
> However, I
> > > don't
> > > > know any blind
> > > > people that are using the full system as
> > intended.
> > > Even
> > > > those that are
> > > > trail blazers must put up with lots of
> > configuration
> > > > headaches together
> > > > with trial and error. That will change very
> soon.
> > We
> > > are
> > > > reaching the
> > > > point where the pieces are finally coming
> > together.
> > > >
> > > > When I started out creating electronic music
> 15
> > years
> > > ago,
> > > > I didn't know
> > > > other blind people that were doing what I
> was
> > doing. I
> > > > bought a lot of
> > > > crap gear, memorized many screens, and
> frustrated
> > > myself
> > > > beyond
> > > > description. The only good thing that came
> of all
> > that
> > > is
> > > > that I learned
> > > > these techniques for memorizing gear and, of
> > course,
> > > got my
> > > > MIDI-knight
> > > > black belt. My intension from the beginning
> with
> > > MoAccess
> > > > has been to
> > > > make the Motif for all of you, what it has
> been
> > for
> > > me, a
> > > > wonderful
> > > > instrument that helped me create music
> instead of
> > mess
> > > with
> > > > lots of
> > > > equipment. I think that this is particularly
> > important
> > > for
> > > > blind people,
> > > > since, not only do most of us have no idea
> what
> > the
> > > cryptic
> > > > configuration options mean, but we have the
> added
> > > > disadvantage that we
> > > > are unable to see the screens on the gear to
> read
> > the
> > > > cryptic
> > > > configuration options.
> > > >
> > > > Hopefully, the Motif XS can replace the old
> > Kurzweils
> > > in
> > > > peoples' minds
> > > > as the accessible workstation. It already
> has
> > been,
> > > but
> > > > most people just
> > > > don't understand it yet.
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, when is the question. The answer is
> 1-2
> > weeks.
> > > > I'm going to CSUN
> > > > this year, and I'd like to be able to
> talk
> > this
> > > stuff
> > > > up when I'm there.
> > > > I really hope that Yamaha releases their
> drum
> > voices
> > > by
> > > > then, as I'd
> > > > like to include them in some all files that
> > I've
> > > built,
> > > > but that part is
> > > > completely out of my control. Still, it is a
> > small
> > > little
> > > > piece.
> > > >
> > > > Bryan
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf
> > Of
> > > Jose
> > > > Abreu
> > > > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 7:31 PM
> > > > To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Sonar, Motif XS, and
> > midi.
> > > >
> > > > Well, I solved my problem, but there's
> still
> > an
> > > > academic question out
> > > > there.
> > > > I moved the piano in track 1 of Sonar to
> another
> > > track, 13,
> > > > and assigned
> > > > it
> > > > to midi channel 1. It now responds to the
> volume
> > > control.
> > > > So, the
> > > > problem
> > > > is not on midi channel 1, but rather on
> > Sonar's
> > > track
> > > > 1. At this point
> > > > it's
> > > > academic, I will just not use track 1, but I
> do
> > still
> > > > wonder why this
> > > > is.
> > > >
> > > > Jose
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > On Behalf Of Bryan Smart
> > > > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 9:26 AM
> > > > To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Sonar, Motif XS, and
> > midi.
> > > >
> > > > Cable from computer to keyboard. Must first
> > download
> > > Yamaha
> > > > Universal
> > > > MIDI driver from YamahaSynth.com, but is
> easy
> > setup.
> > > >
> > > > mLAN does the same thing over a Firewire
> cable,
> > but
> > > also
> > > > provides 11
> > > > stereo (or 22 mono) channels of digital I/O
> for
> > > routing
> > > > audio in to, or
> > > > out of, DAW apps like Sonar.
> > > >
> > > > Bryan
> > > >
> > > > Bryan
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf
> > Of
> > > Jose
> > > > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 9:55 AM
> > > > To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Sonar, Motif XS, and
> > midi.
> > > >
> > > > So, to use the USB connection instead of
> midi, I
> > can
> > > just
> > > > connect a
> > > > cable
> > > > from the computer to the keyboard, or do I
> need
> > the
> > > > optional lan
> > > > adaptor?
> > > >
> > > > Jose
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > On Behalf Of Goldfingas
> > > > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 9:49 AM
> > > > To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Sonar, Motif XS, and
> > midi.
> > > >
> > > > With USB, you are abler to do more than just
> > midi, you
> > > can
> > > > also use the
> > > > remote functions and coming soon, even more.
> I
> > think
> > > there
> > > > are 3 ports
> > > > that
> > > > the USB uses... I forget what they all do
> though.
> > I
> > > know
> > > > that a is midi,
> > > > one
> > > > is remote, and I forget what that other is
> at the
> > > moment.
> > > > Maybe Smart
> > > > can
> > > > chime in here and back me up?
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > On Behalf Of Omar Binno
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 1:02 PM
> > > > To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Sonar, Motif XS, and
> > midi.
> > > >
> > > > I was wrong then about the insertion fx. I
> do
> > remember
> > > > though that it
> > > > was
> > > > discussed on here a while ago how USB
> connection
> > has
> > > > advantages over
> > > > MIDI.
> > > > Yes, no?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Omar Binno
> > > >
> > > > AIM: LOD1116
> > > > Skype: obinno1
> > > > Website: www.omarbinno.com
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Bryan Smart
> > > <mailto:bryansmart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >
> > > > To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 12:24 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Sonar, Motif XS,
> and
> > midi.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Really? I'm not sure how this can be.
> MIDI
> > > doesn't
> > > > have anything
> > > > to
> > > > do with if the Motif uses its insert effects
> > > processors or
> > > > not, as far
> > > > as I
> > > > know.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Bryan
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf
> > Of
> > > Omar
> > > > Binno
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:08 AM
> > > > To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Sonar, Motif XS,
> and
> > midi.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > When you use the motif via midi through
> sonar,
> > you
> > > lose
> > > > the
> > > > insertion fx that you have on the first 8
> tracks
> > of a
> > > > project. If you
> > > > use it
> > > > through USB, you can get those fx and it
> sounds
> > alot
> > > nicer.
> > > > I'm not sure
> > > > if
> > > > that would fix the problem you're
> currently
> > > having, but
> > > > just thought i'd
> > > > pass that bit of info along.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Omar Binno
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > AIM: LOD1116
> > > > Skype: obinno1
> > > > Website: www.omarbinno.com
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > >
> > > > From: Jose
> <mailto:Jose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> > > >
> > > > To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:03 AM
> > > >
> > > > Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Sonar, Motif XS,
> and
> > midi.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > There's no real reason, except this is
> the
> > set
> > > up
> > > > I've
> > > > had
> > > > for a while. I only use the connection to
> create
> > > sequences
> > > > in Sonar
> > > > using
> > > > the XS, and to record sequences from sonar
> into
> > the XS
> > > > using the record
> > > > all
> > > > tracks function. I only change my set up
> once
> > every 5
> > > or
> > > > so years.
> > > > Once
> > > > I'm confortable with a set up, I
> don't
> > like to
> > > > change it, even if it's,
> > > > potentially, for the better. For example, I
> > still use
> > > a
> > > > Layla20 sound
> > > > card.
> > > > It records at a lower resolution than many
> more
> > modern
> > > > cards, like the
> > > > Layla24, and a more recent Echoaudio card
> called
> > > Audiofire.
> > > > However,
> > > > this
> > > > set up works fine for me, and I don't
> spend
> > have
> > > of my
> > > > studio time
> > > > fixing
> > > > connection problems. I do have a p4
> computer,
> > not a
> > > > comodor64!
> > > > However, I
> > > > don't have a dual or quad core computer
> > cause,
> > > once
> > > > again, mine works
> > > > fine.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Jose
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf
> > Of
> > > Omar
> > > > Binno
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 8:43 AM
> > > > To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Sonar, Motif XS,
> and
> > midi.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I'm just curious: why are you
> connecting
> > your
> > > motif
> > > > via
> > > > Midi
> > > > rather than USB?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Omar Binno
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > AIM: LOD1116
> > > > Skype: obinno1
> > > > Website: www.omarbinno.com
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > >
> > > > From: Jose
> <mailto:Jose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> > > >
> > > > To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 8:23 AM
> > > >
> > > > Subject: [MoAccess] Sonar, Motif XS, and
> midi.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Why doesn't my XS listen to the Sonar
> > volume
> > > > setting
> > > > on midi channel 1? I
> > > > have my XS connected to my computer via
> midi
> > > > through
> > > > my Layla sound card.
> > > > In song mode, the volume on channel 1 is
> > always
> > > > at
> > > > the highest level (127).
> > > > It won't change. The volume for all
> of
> > the
> > > > other
> > > > channels change as I
> > > > adjust them in Sonar. I use Sonar 2.2.
> Yes,
> > > > that's
> > > > right, 2.2. It works
> > > > fine for me. I have dealt with this in
> the
> > past
> > > > by
> > > > simply setting the
> > > > keyboard not to receive control data, and
> > > > creating
> > > > templates on the keyboard
> > > > with the settings I want. However,
> I'm
> > curious
> > > > to
> > > > know why this is
> > > > happening. I remember it also happening
> with
> > my
> > > > Yamaha S80. I dealt with
> > > > the problem the same way. I don't
> think
> > it
> > > > happens
> > > > with the Karma, but I
> > > > don't remember because, with the
> Karma, I
> > > always
> > > > disabled control data
> > > > without even checking if this was a
> problem.
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > Jose.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > For links to all Motif info for blind
> owners,
> > > > visit
> > > > www.MoAccess.info.
> > > > To change your list options and view
> archives
> > > > for
> > > > the MoAccess list, visit
> > > www.freelists.org/list/moaccess.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > For links to all Motif info for blind
> owners,
> > visit
> > > > www.MoAccess.info.
> > > > To change your list options and view
> archives for
> > the
> > > > MoAccess list,
> > > > visit
> > > > www.freelists.org/list/moaccess.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > For links to all Motif info for blind
> owners,
> > visit
> > > > www.MoAccess.info.
> > > > To change your list options and view
> archives for
> > the
> > > > MoAccess list,
> > > > visit www.freelists.org/list/moaccess.
> > > >
> > > > For links to all Motif info for blind
> owners,
> > visit
> > > > www.MoAccess.info.
> > > > To change your list options and view
> archives for
> > the
> > > > MoAccess list,
> > > > visit
> > > > www.freelists.org/list/moaccess.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > For links to all Motif info for blind
> owners,
> > visit
> > > > www.MoAccess.info.
> > > > To change your list options and view
> archives for
> > the
> > > > MoAccess list,
> > > > visit www.freelists.org/list/moaccess.
> > > >
> > > > For links to all Motif info for blind
> owners,
> > visit
> > > > www.MoAccess.info.
> > > > To change your list options and view
> archives for
> > the
> > > > MoAccess list, visit
> > > > www.freelists.org/list/moaccess.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > For links to all Motif info for blind
> owners,
> > visit
> > > > www.MoAccess.info.
> > > > To change your list options and view
> archives for
> > the
> > > > MoAccess list, visit
> > www.freelists.org/list/moaccess.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > For links to all Motif info for blind owners, visit
> > www.MoAccess.info.
> > To change your list options and view archives for the
> > MoAccess list, visit
> > www.freelists.org/list/moaccess.
> >
> >
> > For links to all Motif info for blind owners, visit
> > www.MoAccess.info.
> > To change your list options and view archives for the
> > MoAccess list, visit www.freelists.org/list/moaccess.
>
>
>
>
> For links to all Motif info for blind owners, visit
> www.MoAccess.info.
> To change your list options and view archives for the
> MoAccess list,
> visit www.freelists.org/list/moaccess.
>
> For links to all Motif info for blind owners, visit
> www.MoAccess.info.
> To change your list options and view archives for the
> MoAccess list, visit www.freelists.org/list/moaccess.
For links to all Motif info for blind owners, visit www.MoAccess.info.
To change your list options and view archives for the MoAccess list, visit
www.freelists.org/list/moaccess.
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