[missbirdphotos] Re: Coot images

  • From: Robert Smith <rsmithent@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <missbirdphotos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 22:41:54 -0400

I have sure enjoyed (& learned from) the coot processing posts & discussion.  
I've been covered up without much time to get online & comment, but I wanted to 
let y'al know that I've enjoyed the different images & slightly different 
approaches that everyone has used.

Robert Smith





 From: howle@xxxxxxxxxxxx
To: missbirdphotos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [missbirdphotos] Re: Coot images
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 19:04:15 -0500

Thanks Kristen.  Coot 2 was my favorite.  As I said in the email, I used Nik 
Color Efex tonal contrast with the option to brush it on over the bird and rock 
which didn’t enhance any contrast or details in the water. If I played around 
more with Topaz Adjust sliders I could probably have come up with about the 
identical look although I’m not sure about the eye getting lighter which I 
think TC did.  In Topaz Adjust you can select Local Adjustments and “brush off” 
and go over the water area which is what I did to remove the effects.  BTW, 
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by saving some green and taking advantage of our weekend only sale! ALL 
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199  http://www.niksoftware.com/colorefexpro/usa/index.php  Makes it easy to 
choose!  I had Topaz for a couple of years before I bit the bullet and bought 
Color Efex.  As you can see there isn’t a lot of difference.   This page has 
tutorials for Topaz Adjust with a movie also. 
http://www.topazlabs.com/tutorials/adjust.html Compatibility:These are the 
system requirements for the products in the Topaz Photoshop plug-in bundle 
(Star Effects,  B&W Effects, Lens Effects, Adjust, DeNoise, Simplify, Detail, 
InFocus, Clean, ReMask* and DeJPEG)MacIntel-based Macs with OS 10.5, 10.6 or 
10.7 (Topaz is NOT compatible with PowerPC processors - like G4 or G5.)1 GB RAM 
minimum - preferably 2 moreAdobe Photoshop CS3-CS5.5 (32-bit and 64-bit), Adobe 
Photoshop Elements 6-10. Apple Aperture 2 and 3, Lightroom 2-4, and iPhoto via 
Topaz Fusion ExpressWindowsWindows XP, Windows Vista, or Windows 7 (32-bit and 
64-bit)1 GB RAM minimum - preferably 2 moreAdobe Photoshop CS3-CS5.5 (32-bit 
and 64-bit), Adobe Photoshop Elements 6-10.Lightroom 2-4 via Topaz Fusion 
ExpressIrfanviewPaintShop ProPhoto ImpactSerif Photo Plus*ReMask is ONLY 
compatible with Photoshop, Photoshop Elements and Paint Shop Pro. ReMask is NOT 
compatible with iPhoto, Aperture, Lightroom, Photo Impact or Irfanview.  Judy 
Howle Southern Exposureshttp://southernexposure.zenfolio.com Digital 
Photography Class; Resources for 
Photographershttp://digitalphotographyclass.net  From: 
[mailto:missbirdphotos-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kristen Eisbrenner
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 5:34 PM
To: missbirdphotos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [missbirdphotos] Re: Coot images Judy,   Scrolling through the 
pictures made it difficult to see the differences so I opened two explorer 
tabs, and would center one of the images in each.  That way I could see the 
differences more easily as they pop in or out of the photo as I click on each 
tab. Overall, I like Coot 1 and 2 the best.  I especially like the 
smoothness/lightness of the water on Coot 1 compared to the rest.  I like that 
the feathers seemed smoothed down in 1 also--makes the bird look very sleek.  
However, Coot 2 feathers stand out more.  The bird looks a little more 
disheveled but the greater tone/contrast in the feathers is more visually 
interesting.  I guess the artist in me likes 1 and the photographer in me likes 
2.   I also like the dodged eye so that the red is brighter.  Coot 2 eye is the 
most beautiful to me. Like you said, there is very little difference between 3 
and 4, and when I compared them to 1 and 2, I was still drawn to 1 and 2.  
Don't know why. I wasn't distracted by the detail in the rocks because it is 
separate from the bird.  I like Coot 2 rock best for color, tone 
range/contrast. In the end though, all are good edits on their own. Thanks for 
your comments on my edit.  I had no idea if the feathers were supposed to be 
black or brown so I'm glad that you noticed mine was too black.  Guess I will 
have to save up the coins for a calibrator too :) KristenOn Thu, Mar 15, 2012 
at 11:22 PM, Judy Howle <howle@xxxxxxxxxxxx> 
wrote:http://southern-exposures.net/page/coots.htm Coot 1 – In Lightroom 3 I 
had the following settings:  exposure + 20, fill light 10, recovery 9, contrast 
50, clarity 26, vibrance 25, Sharpening 35 with masking set to 20 to protect 
the water, noise reduction 20. In Photoshop I used a slight curves adjustment 
to darken the lightest feathers. I dodged the eye at 35% opacity to lighten it 
a little.  I used hue/sat to + 14. I used Smart Sharpen at 80 amt and 1 pixel 
radius. Images are 1000 pixels in height to show details. (I think all images 
for evaluation should be at least 800 pixels high if vertical to see any 
details.) Coot 2 – I used Nik Color Efex 4 Tonal Contrast on the converted 
image before the sharpening at half of the default settings, as recommended by 
Arthur Morris, and slid the whites slider up a bit to protect the beak. I chose 
to brush on the filter just to the coot and rocks to keep the water less 
contrasty and detailed.(Maybe I should have left it off the rocks?)   Then I 
applied Smart Sharpen. Coot 3 – I used Topaz Adjust and brushed off the effects 
on the water inside the plugin.  Applied Smart Sharpen.  Coot 4 – I selected 
the coot and rocks with the Quick Selection tool and put that on layer. Then I 
ran Noiseware on the background image to further remove noise, and I ran Topaz 
Adjust on the bird/rocks selection and then used Smart Sharpen on it and 
flattened the image.  Not much difference from Coot 3 but the noise is a little 
less. I don’t normally go to this extreme as the noise isn’t usually too bad 
after raw conversion. I also have Noiseware and Topaz DeNoise but that does 
take some detail out of the feathers if one looks close on a larger image like 
these. I think I used Noiseware on the whole image of Coot 4 as the Tonal 
Contrast filter made it show up more. Feel free to comment on what you like or 
don’t like or suggestions. Judy Howle Southern 
Exposureshttp://southernexposure.zenfolio.com Digital Photography Class; 
Resources for Photographershttp://digitalphotographyclass.net                   

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