Now that sounds like an excellent idea! Robert Smith 336-339-3497 rsmithent@xxxxxxx www.photobiologist.com Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 04:52:07 -0700 From: dr_frank_hensley@xxxxxxxxx Subject: [missbirdphotos] An idea for helping each other learn about post-processing To: missbirdphotos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx I wonder what you all think of this: (Oops, sorry. I live in MS now, don't I? I'll try again.) I wonder what y'all think of this: If someone would volunteer to post a RAW photo (probably too big for an attachment, so it would need to go on a server for download) and then anyone who wanted to could try post-processing. Give people a couple of days to find time to work on it, and then people could post .jpgs of their work and we could compare results, discussing both the aspects of the work and the advantages/disadvantages of the software used. People could also keep track of how many steps it took and how much actual time was spent. I'm prompted to do this because I think some people's work just "pops" and others I look at and say "that's photoshopped" because the results look over-processed and unnatural to me. Now we'd need some ground rules. Discussion would have to be civil of course and allow for the fact we have different tastes and personal preferences. But I think I would stand to learn a lot, and also it would help me make some decisions about whether to buy some more expensive software or to keep using the free stuff I rely on. It might be best if we had two volunteers at a time, one to post a Nikon RAW image and one to post a Canon RAW, in case people use software that only handles one format. I'd be happy to volunteer a Nikon shot if I can figure out how to make it available for download... What do you think of the idea? Participation voluntary, or course. We could set a date for the "big reveal" and then commence discussion. I can think of several ways to do this that would be educational. For example, we could do an initial round for a photo with good exposure, then maybe a round that is overexposed and practice rescue techniques. One round could have rippling water as a background, but since it is MS maybe a snowy background is a low priority ("Hallelujah!" says the guy who moved here from Chicago!). I think the only requirement for the photos used would be that they are in focus and close to correct exposure. They would not have to be anyone's best work - just workable. Your thoughts? How many of you would play, if we tried this? -FrankP.S. Can you tell I'm on Spring Break from school? :)