FYI, looks like some overlap between the topics of the next Microfarming Forum and this series being organized by www.eatlocal.org: http://www.eatlocal.org/vendor/the_future_of_farming On Nov 25, 2007 6:07 PM, David Parkinson <parkidavid@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hi Robin & Tajh & others: > > Speaking for the Upper Sunshine Coast. I would like to find a way to get > more of us up here looped into what you folks are doing down there -- makes > sense, since many of the concerns are identical one, only aggravated here by > the increased physical isolation. > > One thing that has been occupying my attention for some time is exactly > what you are looking into: INCREASING CAPACITY. As you know, we've been > fighting land development partly driven by our city government, which aims > to remove ALR land and convert it to housing or industry or something that > won't put food on the table in the years to come. Many people in the > community are pushing back against the loss of farmland, but the terrible > reality right now is that farming continues to decline, farmers are under > fire from every direction, and younger folks who might be interested in > getting into farming are crushed by the high cost of land, complexity of > regulations, amount of knowledge required, and so on. But somehow we need to > find ways to increase food production and processing. > > I can't help thinking that the solutions will come from small-scale > projects scaling up naturally: like backyard garden to SPIN-type model to > value-added to common processing facility & co-op, and so on. All I can > think of doing is encouraging people to stretch what they're currently > doing, in hopes that 1 out of 100 of them will go on to something like > commercial-scale farming or processing. But I'd like to brainstorm with > other people concerned about this stuff. Mind you, I'm not a farmer, nor > much of a producer on any scale, but my role in the community is supposed to > be as catalyst for increased production. Somewhere out there, there must be > other people trying to figure out how to help themselves or other people > overcome all the barriers to producing enough food to be self-sufficient and > then some. I haven't even thought about what all those barriers are, and how > we (as communities without huge cash resources) can help people get past > them. But others probably have... > > Anyway, I think I'm repeating what you're already thinking about. So count > me in. > > > On Nov 25, 2007 3:25 PM, Tajh Leitso <tajh@xxxxxxxx > wrote: > > > I don't know if this was covered by the food security work, but it > > might help to have a realistic idea of what produce people on the > > coast are eating and buying (and from where). This might be enable us > > to see what sort of potential market we have. If we have some sort of > > index for what the organic (or not) produce prices are we can easily > > calculate the return we will get for our sweat. I don't mind putting > > a few (hundred ;) hours of labour in the garden, but if it just > > results in a truckload of rotten tomatoes... or netting $0.25/hour, I > > would be sorely disappointed. > > > > I would be a new person attending a microfarmer forum, and what stops > > me from even contemplating growing commercially, is that I don't even > > know (I am learning) how to grow everything we eat. My goal is self > > sufficiency, and it would be amazing to grow enough to share, but we > > ate everything that came out of our garden that the deer didn't poach > > - so next year it has to be even bigger. > > > > You could probably sell out several forums if you titled it "Growing > > bananas and coffee beans on the Sunshine Coast." If we could grow our > > own coffee and cocoa what would we need the ferries for ;) ? > > > > Somewhat off-topic: > > I would also like to see some farmers and/or their vendors posting > > what they have on hand to avoid any disappointments. I know that > > farmers are busy - but they could probably make an extra $50 a month > > out of our family if they posted info about random "sales." Even > > something simple posted on onestraw like, "Got too many Blue Moon > > Bananas over here at Lunar farm, so we are letting them go at $1 a > > kilo... let us know how many you want" Ideally there would be a few > > RSS feeds that produce consumers could subscribe to that show what > > sort of inventory is available. > > > > On Nov 24, 2007, at 11:27, Robin Wheeler wrote: > > > > > Hello, all - > > > I am planning the next Microfarm Forum for late February. This might > > > be something that only new people will want to come to, or something > > > the last gang might still benefit from. I would like to call this > > > Forum - > > > "Increasing Capacity". If we are growing nothing now, how can we > > > begin? If we are growing "some", how can we grow more? > > > I am inviting speakers from the Non Forest Timber Product division > > > of Royal Roads University to speak to us about the fringe markets > > > for items like this, and they will be talking about Value Added > > > components and marketing. > > > I would like to set aside time to talk about food plant aspects of > > > increasing capacity. We have hundreds of acres of grass and > > > partially used veggie garden on the coast. What are the mental and > > > physical walls that are keeping us from turning this land into > > > highly productive food growing area? What, as any of you stepped > > > out into your gardens to begin growing commercially on even a tiny > > > scale, occurred to you as problems or barriers to getting going? > > > If we could think-tank that a little bit here, it would help me > > > design something useful for this Forum. > > > Thanks for tossing and turning on that problem - > > > Robin > > > > > > > > > -- > David -- David