Re: crown land. I have met with an SCRD planner (on his invitation) on three occasions to begin discussion on how these huge tracts of land could be shared. But that is when the treaty issue raised its head. Now the land claims have to be settled before we look at shared use of the 700 acres of land that could be carefully used. But it is in the works - just on hold. Robin ----- Original Message ----- From: Lancifer WIldwood To: microfarmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 6:03 PM Subject: [microfarmer] Re: Ideas A rather good forum, if we can find someone who knows something about it, would be how to apply for 'crown' land (me'arse it belongs to some witch from overseas!) agroforestry leases. I know there are 60 acres behind this dump that I would love to grow goldenseal on, various fungi etc. Yes I know I can just go and do t but there isn't as much security as I would like to say buy 10000 rootlets and build raised beds with the right PH. When I look at guvmint documents they read like Cantonese to me. I get 965 matches for 'canopy 5,4,3' from the PFAF database. I'm sure there are more things and results from Britain are showing that a forest edge hog run is amazing both in the growth of the hog, and also in the results of biodiversity at the forest edge. If everything goes doollalley having breedig pairs of animals would be great (hints of Noah) and there will be no greater form of wealth as our ancestors have known for along time. Fortunately the ocean is still recoverable here in a short period if harvesting was table based rather than export based. I'm looking into buying an oyster lease (shore based) to start a 'Community Sponsored Mariculture' and to date have waaaayyy more response than I want to deal with! I'd dearly love to release wild boar into the area as well (sorry folks, get better fencing) since the Lasqueti feral sheep experiment went so well. The problem is not what to do, its how to get people into seeing that it needs doing. I 'woke up' a few people in Vancouver about what is occurring with two movies Aaron Russo's "America: Freedom to Fascism' (buy it or torrent it) and "Endgame: Blueprint for Global Enslavement" (buy it or torrent it, or ask me and I'll burn you a copy of either). Both would seem outlandish a few years ago but with the guvmint subtly moving to restrict our ability to feed ourselves on the one hand then handing out crumbs of money for 'community food security', its not that hard to come to the conclusions the movies do. The PTw (Powers That were) are playing for keeps. Robin Wheeler <robin54@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Hi, all - Good discussion - I would like to return briefly to the original message to this group - that I will be offering another Microfarm Forum in February, am inviting people to speak on Non Forest Timber Products and "Value Added", and am wondering if there is another class that some consensus could develop around for a third topic. The theme will be "Capacity Building", remembering that this is what the funds are directed towards - helping growers increase capacity to grow food, to feed themselves, and then to sell to others, in an effort to make the Sunshine coast safer to live in, reduce fossil fuel use, bring people back to their gardens. Thanks! Meanwhile, please carry on with dialogue ... Robin A consensus means that everyone agrees to say collectively what no one believes individually. Abba Eban 'I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.' - attributed to Voltaire ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail