> progressing any further in VL as it has no really aplicible benefits in Epic > levels. and with the Druid Re-write (I'm hoping we will allow the 3.5 rules > for > Bolo) he will be able to wild shape into plants. so there is no benefits at > all That raises another good point. We're still in wait-and-see mode on 3.5 for the alpha game. You might want to line out some possibilities but not make any decisions until we get a look at 3.5 and decide how the alpha will go. On one hand it's a lot to retcon in, and on the other since it's our powerful game, we need it most. T.